What Angle Allows a Right Angle Ruler to Hang in Equilibrium?

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The problem involves a right angle ruler made of uniform sheet metal hanging from a peg, with the goal of finding the angle at which it hangs in equilibrium. The ruler has arms of different lengths, and the discussion centers around the forces and torques acting on it.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss summing forces and torques to find equilibrium, with initial attempts focusing on the vertical forces and torque equations. There is a question about the correctness of the force balance and the algebra used in the calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on correcting the force balance and algebraic manipulation. Multiple interpretations of the equations are being explored, particularly regarding the relationship between the angle and the forces involved.

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There is a mention of the total weight of the ruler and its implications for the force equations. Participants are also questioning the assumptions made about the forces acting on the ruler.

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Homework Statement



the right angle ruler shown in the figure hangs from a peg . it is made of unifrom sheet metal. let lambda equal the leiner dinsity. one arm is Lcm long and the other is 2L cm long. find the angle theta at which it will hang in equilibrium

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I believe ij ust sum the forces, that is the forces in the y direction equal zero as well as the torqs. i don't think i need the x right?

F(y) = 0 = P - .5mg - mg = P - .75mg

F(torque) = 0 = .5Amg - Bmg hwere A = .5LcosQ and B = LsinQ

F = 0 = .5(.5LcosQ)mg - (LsinQ)mg = .25cosQ - sinQ = 0

is this correct, how do i solve this
 

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you are on track, but you have the force P equal to .75mg, where instead, it must equal mg, where mg is the total weight of the right angled metal. It doesn't make much difference, though...note that sin theta/cos theta =tan theta, when you solve your equation for theta.
 
something is not right

.25cosQ = sinQ
cosQ = 4sinQ
0 = 4tanQ

Q = 0

what did i do wrong
 
joemama69 said:
something is not right

.25cosQ = sinQ
cosQ = 4sinQ
0 = 4tanQ

Q = 0

what did i do wrong
Your algebra.

if .25cosQ = sinQ, then divide both sides of the equation by cosQ, which yields

.25cosQ/cosQ = sinQ/cosQ, or
.25 = tanQ

Solve for the angle, Q.
 

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