What are effective ways to classify physics problems?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around effective methods for classifying physics problems, focusing on how such classifications can aid in problem-solving. Participants explore various approaches to categorizing problems based on their characteristics, methods of solution, and the skills required to tackle them.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest classifying problems by the mathematical tools required, such as trigonometry or integrals, but express uncertainty about the effectiveness of this approach.
  • Others note that textbooks often classify problems by difficulty, with simpler problems presented first, followed by more complex ones that require multiple steps and a broader application of knowledge.
  • There is mention of different types of questions, including analytical versus numerical problems, and those that test conceptual understanding versus detailed solutions.
  • Some participants argue that while classification might be useful for designing problem sets or textbooks, it may not be essential for individual learning, suggesting that experience will naturally lead to an understanding of problem types.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of learning how to approach problems efficiently rather than memorizing solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express uncertainty about the best methods for classifying physics problems, with multiple competing views on the usefulness and necessity of such classifications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective approach.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of consensus on classification methods and the dependence on individual learning styles and experiences. Some assumptions about the effectiveness of classification in aiding problem-solving remain unexamined.

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Well I've now read two general "study guides" who advise me to classify physics problems according to their methods of solution or to identify types of problems.

This sounds like a good idea, a good way to start thinking about a problem and take less time solving it, but still being somewhat of a beginner I'm at a loss as to what those types of problems could be. The only thing i can think of is classification by mathematical tools needed (trig, integrals...), but it doesn't sound that interesting. Do any of you do or did something like this, and if yes what kinds of classification do you use?
 
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djosey said:
Well I've now read two general "study guides" who advise me to classify physics problems according to their methods of solution or to identify types of problems.

This sounds like a good idea, a good way to start thinking about a problem and take less time solving it, but still being somewhat of a beginner I'm at a loss as to what those types of problems could be. The only thing i can think of is classification by mathematical tools needed (trig, integrals...), but it doesn't sound that interesting. Do any of you do or did something like this, and if yes what kinds of classification do you use?

Memorizing problems' solutions doesn't teach you how to do physics.
 
I don't know what it means either. Probably not worth worrying about! Text books often classify their own problems. As you'll have noticed, the easiest, quickest ones tend to come first in a problem set, followed by questions that take more work, involve several distinct steps, offer less guidance, or require the reader to bring together a variety of knowledge and techniques. There may be symbols used to indicate difficulty or whether the problem will need a computer. Some problems are designed to test whether you broadly understand a concept, others your ability to find a detailed solution to a question about a specific example scenario. There are analytical questions versus numerical questions, problems of the kind "prove this general principle, what is the reason, fill in the gaps in the following argument" and problems of the kind "how heavy, how long, what is the force here". I guess it could be useful to think about if you were designing your own problem set or writing a textbook. And of course, if you come across an ingenious technique you want to remember, you might want to make a note of it, but the subtle stuff will become instinct the more you do, and the obvious differences are, well, obvious. Might as well spend that time learning more physics!
 
Rasalhague said:
I don't know what it means either. Probably not worth worrying about! Text books often classify their own problems. As you'll have noticed, the easiest, quickest ones tend to come first in a problem set, followed by questions that take more work, involve several distinct steps, offer less guidance, or require the reader to bring together a variety of knowledge and techniques. There may be symbols used to indicate difficulty or whether the problem will need a computer. Some problems are designed to test whether you broadly understand a concept, others your ability to find a detailed solution to a question about a specific example scenario. There are analytical questions versus numerical questions, problems of the kind "prove this general principle, what is the reason, fill in the gaps in the following argument" and problems of the kind "how heavy, how long, what is the force here". I guess it could be useful to think about if you were designing your own problem set or writing a textbook. And of course, if you come across an ingenious technique you want to remember, you might want to make a note of it, but the subtle stuff will become instinct the more you do, and the obvious differences are, well, obvious. Might as well spend that time learning more physics!

Thanks for the advice! i think you're right, not worth worrying about, i wanted to ask in case there was something i missed.
 
Feldoh said:
Memorizing problems' solutions doesn't teach you how to do physics.

Maybe i wasn't clear, i know it's not useful to memorize, i wanted to know if i could learn to approach problems more efficiently, that's all.
 

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