What are radio waves and cosmic waves made of?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the composition and characteristics of cosmic waves and radio waves, exploring their differences and the concept of energy transfer associated with them. It touches on theoretical aspects of physics, including relativistic mass and the nature of photons.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that cosmic rays refer to high-energy charged particles, such as protons, while others suggest that cosmic waves may include photons, specifically gamma rays.
  • One participant notes that radio waves are a form of electromagnetic radiation, consisting of photons with much lower energy compared to gamma rays.
  • There is a discussion about the energy transfer capabilities of both cosmic rays and radio waves, with a participant affirming that they can indeed transfer energy.
  • Another participant raises a question regarding the relativistic mass of photons, suggesting that if photons have zero rest mass, it leads to confusion about their energy and momentum.
  • A later reply challenges the concept of relativistic mass, arguing that mass is a form of energy rather than the other way around.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of cosmic rays and the concept of relativistic mass, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions of cosmic waves and radio waves, as well as the implications of relativistic mass in relation to photons and their energy.

tom riddle
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what are cosmic waves and radio waves made of? What's the difference between the two? Can waves like them transfer energy ?
 
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I presume you mean cosmic rays:
http://www.telescopearray.org/index.php/about/what-are-cosmic-rays

As you can see it is a catch all term for all sorts of things, but of relevance to radio waves it includes Gamma Rays which are photons.

Radio waves is electromagnetic radiation and like Gamma Rays are photons, but of a much much lower energy.

And yes they have energy and can transfer it to other things.

Thanks
Bill
 
Cosmic rays generally refer to high energy charged particles, such as protons, of interstellar origin.
 
now according to the formula : M(relativistic) = M(real) it has been mathematically proved that nothing can travel faster than light. but when we consider a
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[ 1- {(V)^2/(C)^2} ]^1/2
photon (which travels at the speed of light), its M(real) is 0 hence its M(relativistic) must be 0 too. well this dosent make sense because a photon does have its energy as well as momentum and hence must obviously have M(relativistic). does it mean that photons must necessarily be waves to have energy or what?
 
M(real)
---------- = M(relativistic) this is what i meant above
[ 1 - {(V)^2/(C)^2} ] ^ 1/2
 
tom riddle said:
as momentum and hence must obviously have M(relativistic). does it mean that photons must necessarily be waves to have energy or what?

It means the concept of relativistic mass is a crock:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/mass.html

It also means E=MC^2 says mass is a form of energy not energy is a form of mass.

Thanks
Bill
 

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