What are some methods for solving the integral of (4x^2-1)e^(-2x^2)?

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The discussion revolves around methods for solving the integral of the function (4x^2-1)e^(-2x^2). Participants explore various techniques, including substitution, integration by parts, and the potential use of the error function.

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  • One participant seeks guidance on solving the integral, mentioning attempts with substitution and partial fractions without success.
  • Another suggests using the error function, indicating that a solution in terms of elementary functions may not be possible and speculates that the definite integral over the real line could be zero.
  • A participant claims to have solved the integral by splitting it into two parts and applying integration by parts, providing a specific form of the solution.
  • Another participant challenges the claim about cancellation in the solution, asserting that the terms actually add together, leading to a different expression.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake in their previous writing of the solution and attempts to clarify the correct form, suggesting that certain terms cancel out.

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There is no consensus on the correctness of the proposed solutions, as participants express differing views on the cancellation of terms and the validity of the integration steps. Multiple competing interpretations of the integral's solution remain unresolved.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the integration steps and the handling of terms, indicating potential limitations in their approaches. The discussion reflects a reliance on various methods without a definitive resolution.

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I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction with this integral.

((4x^2)-1)e^(-2x^2),

I have tried substitution with trig functions, hyperbolic functions, seperating the first part into partial fractions and numerous other methods to no avail. Does anyone who knows have any hints?

Cheers
 
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Try solving this with the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_function" . This will give a solution in terms of erf(x), a solution in terms of more elementary functions is probably not possible.
I also suspect that the definite integral over the real line is 0.
 
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It is OK I have done it now, I split it into two parts 4x^2(e-2x^2) and -e(-2x^2) and integrated the first part by parts using u'=4xe(-2x^2) and v=x, and then the integral part of the solution canceled with the second part ie the sol'n was ;

[-xe(-2x^2)]-int(-e(-2x^2)-int(-e(-2x^2)),

leaving [-xe(-2x^2)] with appropriate limits,

Thanks!
 
birdhen said:
It is OK I have done it now, I split it into two parts 4x^2(e-2x^2) and -e(-2x^2) and integrated the first part by parts using u'=4xe(-2x^2) and v=x, and then the integral part of the solution canceled with the second part ie the sol'n was ;

[-xe(-2x^2)]-int(-e(-2x^2)-int(-e(-2x^2)),
No, the last two terms do NOT cancel, they add. This is
-xe^{-2x^2}- 2\int e^{-2x^2} dx.

leaving [-xe(-2x^2)] with appropriate limits,

Thanks!
 
I think wrote it incorrectly, it would be;

(-xe^(-2x^2)) -int(-e^(-2x^2)) -int(e^(-2x^2)),

which then cancels.
 

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