Question about moment of inertia of area. lecture note from malaysia uni given.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the moment of inertia of area, specifically the differences between the notations (I) and (I bar), and the application of these concepts in solving assignment problems related to the Parallel-Axis theorem. The context includes theoretical understanding and practical application in engineering coursework.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the difference between (I) and (I bar), asking if they are equivalent and highlighting discrepancies in equations for rectangles presented in lecture notes.
  • Another participant suggests reviewing section 5.5 regarding the Parallel-Axis theorem to clarify the confusion.
  • A participant expresses frustration that using (I bar x) = (1/12 bh^3) led to incorrect answers in their assignment, indicating a misunderstanding of the application of these equations.
  • Another response emphasizes that (I) without a bar was not applicable in the assignment and stresses the importance of using the correct axis as specified in the problem statement.
  • A later reply suggests that there may have been a mistake in the lecturer's notation in the assignment, proposing a specific formula to use for the calculations involving the Parallel-Axis theorem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct application of the moment of inertia equations and the potential errors in the assignment. There is no consensus on the resolution of these issues, as participants continue to debate the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions and applications of (I) and (I bar), as well as the specific context of the assignment questions. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the lecture material and its application to homework problems.

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please download the lecture note to understand my question.

1. What is the difference between (I) and (I bar) ? is I = I bar?they are the same?
2.in the slide i uploaded, chapter5.8 pg 31, the equation for rectangle, (I bar x prime) = (1/12bh cube) and (Ix) = (1/3bh cube) ,as you can see,their equation are different.
I know (I bar x prime) = (1/12bh cube) is used in the equation (Ix)= (1/12bh cube+ Ady square) , but when to use this equation (Ix) = (1/3bh cube) ?

p/s:I am an engineering student from malaysia university.
 

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How about you go back to section 5.5, page 9 and reread the information regarding the Parallel-Axis theorem.
 
minger said:
How about you go back to section 5.5, page 9 and reread the information regarding the Parallel-Axis theorem.

i know ,but the assignment question given by the lecturer doensnt means this.
if i use (I bar x)=(1/12bhcube) equation to solve the question in assignment 2(b) (Ibar x)and(Ibary), the answer is wrong.
 

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I with no bar isn't used on that assignment. In fact, the question tells you which axis to take the moment about. You need to include the parallel axis theorem, the answer will be:
<br /> I = \sum \frac{bh^3}{12} + Ad^2
 
aiklone1314: It appears your teacher made a mistake in his nomenclature in question 2(b). He accidentally typed Ibarx and Ibary, but he meant to type Ix and Ibary. Therefore, for question 2(b), use the following parallel axis theorem formula, mentioned by minger, to compute Ix.

Ix = summation[(1/12)b*h^3 + A*d^2]
 

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