What are the generalized coordinates for the suspended rod Lagrangian?

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The discussion focuses on deriving the Lagrangian for a suspended rod system using generalized coordinates. The rod, of length 2b, is described with coordinates x, y1, and y2, where x represents the longitudinal displacement and y1 and y2 denote the horizontal displacements of the rod's ends. The small angle approximation is applied, leading to the relationship θ = (x^2 + y^2)/l, with height above equilibrium approximated as l(θ^2). The participants clarify the need to use the coordinates directly rather than angles for accurate modeling.

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Homework Statement


A thin rod of length 2b is suspended by 2 light strings both attached to the ceiling. Using x, y1, y2 as your generalized coordinates right down the lagrangian of the system. Where x is the longitudinal displacement of the rod and y1 and y2 are the horizontal displacements of the ends.


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The strings remain taught and displacements from equilibrium are small

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If θ Is the angle that one of the strings makes with the vertical and we make a small angle approximation then θ= (x^2 +y^2)/l but and the height above the equilibrium position is equal to l(1-cos θ) which is approximately equal to l(θ^2), but this gives me a bunch of very small terms which I don't think is correct
 
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. I know I am missing something, do I take the coordinates as the generalized coordinates instead of the angle?
 

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