What Are the Methods to Determine Surface Normal Direction at a Point?

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The discussion revolves around determining the surface normal direction at a specific point for given surfaces defined by equations. The subject area includes concepts from multivariable calculus and differential geometry.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants inquire about the necessary information to find the surface normal, including whether a plane equation is available or if only point coordinates are provided. There is a focus on identifying the nature of the surfaces involved, with one participant noting that the surfaces in question are not planes but rather a spherical shell and a paraboloid.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of gradients to find normals, but there is no explicit consensus on the methods to be employed.

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Participants are working with specific equations and a point, but there is a noted lack of clarity regarding the definitions and characteristics of the surfaces involved. The discussion also hints at the importance of reviewing relevant textbook material for foundational concepts.

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How do I find "surface normal direction" for a plane on a point with coordinates specified?
 
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Do you have a plane equation or do you only have the coordinates of a point? Please be more specific.
 
i need to find normal directions for r^2=9 and x+y+z^2=1 at the point (2,-2,1)
 
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i need to find normal directions for r^2=9 and x+y+z^2=1 at the point (2,-2,1)

First, neither of those surfaces are planes. The first is a spherical shell, and the second is a paraboloid.

Second, straight from wikipedia:

[PLAIN]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_normal said:
If[/PLAIN] a surface S is given implicitly as the set of points [itex](x,y,z)[/itex] satisfying [itex]F(x,y,z)=0[/itex], then, a normal at a point [itex](x,y,z)[/itex] on the surface is given by the gradient:

[tex]\mathbf{N}=\mathbf{\nabla}F[/tex]

since the gradient at any point is perpendicular to the level set, and [itex]F(x,y,z) = 0[/itex] (the surface) is a level set of [itex]F[/itex].

I'd be shocked if this wasn't in your notes or textbook, and I strongly suggest you review the section of your text that covers this.

Anyways, just like wikipedia implies, to find a surface normal at a point, define [itex]F[/itex], take the gradient (in the appropriate coordinate system) and plug in the point.
 
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