What Are the Negative Integer Solutions for \( y = \frac{10x}{100-x} \)?

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The discussion revolves around finding negative integer solutions for the equation \( y = \frac{10x}{100-x} \). Participants explore various methods to derive possible values for \( y \) and corresponding \( x \) values, focusing on the constraints that both variables must be negative integers.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reformulates the equation into a product form, \( (x-100)(y+10) = -1000 \), and identifies specific pairs of negative integers as solutions.
  • Another participant suggests analyzing the graph of the function, noting that if both \( x \) and \( y \) are negative, then \( y \) must lie between -10 and 0, leading to a method of testing integer values within that range.
  • A third participant provides a limit approach, stating that as \( x \) approaches negative infinity, \( y \) approaches -10, and verifies specific integer solutions by substituting values for \( y \) and solving for \( x \).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple methods to find solutions, but there is no consensus on a definitive list of solutions. Each method yields different insights, and the discussion remains open regarding the completeness of the solutions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express conditions regarding the range of \( y \) and the implications for \( x \), but the discussion does not resolve the full set of solutions or the implications of the derived equations.

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x,y are negative integers

given :

$y=\dfrac {10x}{100-x}$

find all the possible solutions of y
 
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Albert said:
x,y are negative integers

given :

$y=\dfrac {10x}{100-x}$

find all the possible solutions of y

y(100-x) = 10 x
or xy + 10x - 100y = 0
or x(y+10) - 100(y+10) = - 1000
or (x-100)( y+ 10) = - 1000 ..1

y < 0 so y + 10 < 10
x < 0 so x - 100 < -100

- 1000 = 1 * (- 1000) => y = - 9 , x = -900
similarly you can find other solutions
= 2 * (-500) => y = - 8, x = - 400
= 5 * (-200) => y = -5
= 4 * (-250) => y = - 6
= 8 * (-125) => y = -2

y + 10 has to be positive and < 10 so these are only solutions
 
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Another way to look at it is from the graph. Here you will see that if $x,y < 0$ then $ -10 < y < 0$ and so it's a matter of setting $y$ equal to a negative integer between $-9$ and $-1$ and solving for $x$ to see which one is a negative integer. It's not the most elegant but it works.
 
Albert said:
x,y are negative integers

given :

$y=\dfrac {10x}{100-x}$

find all the possible solutions of y

Because is...

$$\lim_{x \rightarrow - \infty} \frac{10 x}{100 - x} = -10\ (1)$$

... the possible solutions will be with $-10 < y < 0$. Proceeding from -9 we can verify...

$$10 x = -9\ (100 - x) \implies x = - 900\ ,\ y = -9\ \text{is solution}$$

$$10 x = -8\ (100 - x) \implies x = - \frac{800}{2}= -400\ ,\ y = -8\ \text{is solution}$$

$$10 x = -6\ (100 - x) \implies x = - \frac{600}{4}= - 150\ ,\ y = -6\ \text{is solution}$$

$$10 x = -5\ (100 - x) \implies x = - \frac{500}{5}= -100\ ,\ y = -5\ \text{is solution}$$

$$10 x = -2\ (100 - x) \implies x = - \frac{200}{8}= -25\ ,\ y = -2\ \text{is solution}$$

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