What are the torque and power calculations for a belt drive system?

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The discussion revolves around the calculations related to a belt drive system, specifically focusing on torque and power. Participants are addressing a homework problem that involves determining the linear speed of the belt, the rotational speed of pulley B, the torque on pulley B, and the power transmitted to pulley B. The conversation includes both theoretical and practical aspects of the calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the linear speed of the belt using the formula v = R x W, arriving at a value of 15.7079 m/s, but there is confusion regarding the radius of pulley A.
  • Another participant points out that the rotational speed of pulley B cannot be derived directly from the diameter of pulley A and suggests that both pulleys have the same linear speed.
  • There is a claim that the torque on pulley B is calculated correctly as 37.5 Nm, but participants are uncertain about the correct value of the angular speed (Wb) to use in the power calculation.
  • One participant proposes that the rotational speed of pulley B should be equal to that of pulley A, which is 300 rev/min, but this is contested as both pulleys have different diameters.
  • Participants discuss the relationship between linear speed and rotational speed, leading to a formula rA ωA = rB ωB, which is used to derive the rotational speed of pulley B.
  • One participant calculates the rotational speed of pulley B as 62.8 rad/sec but is unsure about converting this to rev/min.
  • Another participant confirms the method for conversion from rad/s to rev/min but highlights that the calculation needs to be verified for accuracy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement on the correct rotational speed of pulley B, with some asserting it should be equal to that of pulley A and others arguing it must be calculated based on the relationship between the radii and angular speeds. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct values for Wb and the final power calculation.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the radii of the pulleys and the relationship between linear and rotational speeds. Some calculations depend on the correct interpretation of the problem statement and the definitions used for the variables involved.

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Homework Statement



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(b) Fig. Q.6 shows a belt drive system where pulley A (diameter 0.5 m) is transmitting power to pulley B (diameter 0.25 m), mounted on a parallel rotating shaft. The tight and slack-side tensions of the belt are 500 N and 200 N respectively, and pulley A rotates at 300 rev/min.

Determine
(i) The linear speed of the belt (in m/s))
(ii) The rotational speed of pulley B (in rev/min)
(iii) The torque on pulley B.
(iv) The power transmitted to pulley B.

The Attempt at a Solution



(i)
To find linear speed in (m/s)

v= RxW
V=0.5x(300x(2pi/60))
v=0.5x31.4159
v=15.7079m/s

(II)
the rotational speed of pully B

if
0.5m = 300rev/min
therefore
300/0.5 = 600
600x0.25= 150rev/min

(iii)
To find torque

Tb=(f1-f2)Rb
Tb=(500-200)0.125
Tb=(300)0.125
Tb=37.5Nm

(iv)
To find power

Pb=TbxWb
Pb=37.5x(150x(2pi/60))
Pb=589.04watts

i did my best, can some one tell me if I am on the right track or I am totally off
 

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The Futur said:

The Attempt at a Solution



(i)
To find linear speed in (m/s)

v= RxW
V=0.5x(300x(2pi/60))
v=0.5x31.4159
v=15.7079m/s
You have the right idea. However, the radius of pulley A is not 0.5m.

(II)
the rotational speed of pully B

if
0.5m = 300rev/min
That statement makes no sense.

therefore
300/0.5 = 600
600x0.25= 150rev/min
Not quite. Hint: both pulleys have the same linear speed.

(iii)
To find torque

Tb=(f1-f2)Rb
Tb=(500-200)0.125
Tb=(300)0.125
Tb=37.5Nm
Yes, that's right.

(iv)
To find power

Pb=TbxWb
Pb=37.5x(150x(2pi/60))
Pb=589.04watts
You have the right idea, but will need to use the correct value of Wb to get the correct answer here.
 
(i)
To find linear speed in (m/s)

v= RxW
V=0.25x(300x(2pi/60))
v=0.25x31.4159
v=7.85m/s
is that corect now?

i don't get you on the rotational speed of pully B.

if i get the rotational speed of the pully B, i will be able to have the correct value for Wb yeah?
 
\omega_b = 300 \frac{rev}{min} \left( 2 \frac{\pi}{60} \right) not \omega_b =150 \frac{rev}{min} \left( 2 \frac{\pi}{60} \right) (in your power equation.)
 
djeitnstine said:
\omega_b = 300 \frac{rev}{min} \left( 2 \frac{\pi}{60} \right) not \omega_b =150 \frac{rev}{min} \left( 2 \frac{\pi}{60} \right) (in your power equation.)
yeah i do know it's 300rev/min, but how did u find the 300rev/min?

so to answer the question.

Q. The rotational speed of pully B
A. Since pully A as a rotational speed of 300rev/min
and both pully have the same linear speed, so pully b as a rotational speed of 300rev/min?
 
The Futur said:
i don't get you on the rotational speed of pully B.
Okay. You know that the linear speed v is

v = r ω​

And since the linear speed (= the belt speed) is the same for both pulleys,

rA ωA = vA = vB = rB ωB

Also, B will have a different rotational speed (not 300 rpm) than A.

if i get the rotational speed of the pully B, i will be able to have the correct value for Wb yeah?
Yes.
 
im confused!
 
Redbelly98 said:
rA ωA = vA = vB = rB ωB

In other words,

rA ωA = rB ωB

(ii) asks for ωB. You know what rA, ωA, and rB are. Solve the equation for ωB.
 
Redbelly98 said:
In other words,

rA ωA = rB ωB

(ii) asks for ωB. You know what rA, ωA, and rB are. Solve the equation for ωB.

So
Va=RaxWb = Vb=RbxWb

Since Va=7.85m/s

Vb=RbxWb
7.85=0.125xWb
0.125Wb=7.85
Wb=7.85/0.125=62.8rev/min
is that correct?
 
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Almost, except for the units. It's 62.8 rad/sec.
 
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Redbelly98 said:
Almost, except for the units. It's 62.8 rad/sec.

how do i convert taht to rev/min.

i tryed

62.8/(2pi/60)
and i got some weird answer
 
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The Futur said:
how do i convert taht to rev/min.

i tryed

62.8/(2pi/60)
Good, that is the correct way to convert from rad/s into rev/min.

... and i got some weird answer
I get an entirely reasonable, and correct, answer when I do the calculation.

p.s.
If you had posted the answer you actually got, I could now be posting back about whether you did the calculation correctly.
 

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