What are the two square roots of 3+4i and how can they be obtained?

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The problem involves finding the square roots of the complex number 3 + 4i by expressing it in the form (a + bi)². The original poster seeks to derive a system of equations from this expression.

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  • Participants discuss equating the real and imaginary parts of the equation (a + bi)² = 3 + 4i to form a system of equations. There are attempts to manipulate these equations and questions about the correctness of substitutions and steps taken.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing guidance on how to set up and solve the equations. There is a recognition of the need to correctly substitute and manipulate the equations, with some participants exploring different approaches to find the roots.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their understanding of complex numbers and the methods required to solve the equations. There are indications of confusion regarding the manipulation of terms and the implications of their substitutions.

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Homework Statement


Hi,
I have to solve this exercise:
"Given that (a+bi)^2 = 3+4i obrain a pair of simultaneous equations involving a and b. Hende find the two square roots of 3+4i. Hence find the two suqre roots of 3+4i."
I don't really know to do do it.

2. The attempt at a solution
Well, that's what I thought:
(a+bi)^2 = 3+4
we expand:
a^2+2abi-b^2=3+4i
we group them:
2abi-4i=-a^2+b^2+3
common factor:
2i(ab-2)=-ab^2+b^2+3
2i=(-a^2+b^2+3)/(ab-2)

And now I don't even know if what I've done is good, and if it's good what should be the next step?
 
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Starting at a2 + 2abi - b2 = 3 + 4i, you want to equate the real and imaginary parts.
For example, if c + di = x + yi, then c = x and d = y. This way you'll get a system of equations to solve.
 
Hi renvox.

Your initial equation \left(a+bi\right)^{2}=3+4i involves the equality of two complex numbers. This implies that both the real part and the imaginary part of the two numbers must be equal.
 
Ok, so it will be:
2abi=4i
and
a^2-b^2=3
And now what do I do? :s
 
You have a system of two equations and two variables...
 
Sorry, it's my second day with complex numbers.
2abi=4i
a=sqrt(3+b^2)
therefore:
2bi*sqrt(3+b^2)=4i
-4bi*(3+b^2)=-16
-12b^2-4b^4=-16
dividing by -4
b^4+3b^2=4
common factor b^2
b^2(b^2+3)=4
right?
 
The system of equations you must solve is the following:

From the equality of the real parts: a^{2}-b^{2}=3
From the equality of the imaginary parts: 2ab=4
 
lol, I'm making new laws of complex numbers :x
so:
b=2/a
a^2-2/a=3
a^3-3a-2=0
do I have to use cubic equation or is there another way to do it?
 
Make sure you're doing your substitution correct. In a2 - b2 = 3, you have to square the 2/a when you substitute it in for b. So you'll get
a^2 - \left(\frac{2}{a}\right)^2 = 3

Try taking it from there. :smile:
 
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thanks guys, you are awesome.
a^2-(4/a^2)=3
a^4 - 3^2 -4 = 0
by plugging: a=-2 or 2
so b= 1 or -1
thanks!
 
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renvox said:
thanks guys, you are awesome.
a^2-(4/a^2)=3
a^4 - 3^2 -4 = 0
Forgot an a2. This should be
a^4 - 3a^2 - 4 = 0
renvox said:
by plugging: a=-2 or 2
By guess-and-check? You realize this is factorable, right?
a^4 - 3a^2 - 4 = (a^2 - 4)(a^2 + 1)
 

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