What are your Thoughts on the Philosophy of Mathematics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the philosophy of mathematics, particularly focusing on how individuals perceive and engage with mathematical concepts, the abstraction inherent in mathematics, and the relationship between mathematics and reality. Participants explore both the cognitive and philosophical dimensions of mathematical practice.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern that mathematical practice often resembles mechanical computation, suggesting that individuals may overlook the concrete implications of mathematical steps.
  • Another participant acknowledges the efficiency of computation but argues that considering the physical significance of numbers can enhance understanding and improve the reasonableness of results.
  • A third participant asserts that numbers and computations represent only a small aspect of mathematics.
  • One contribution cites a quote from Albert Einstein, suggesting a dichotomy between the abstract nature of mathematics and its uncertain relationship with reality.
  • Another participant shares a personal approach to visualizing mathematical expressions, emphasizing the role of creativity and intuition in mathematical innovation, referencing Poincare's work on the subject.
  • A final post indicates a procedural issue with the thread's placement in the forum, leading to its lock due to non-compliance with forum rules.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present a range of perspectives on the nature of mathematics and its abstraction, with no clear consensus emerging. The discussion reflects both agreement on the complexity of mathematical engagement and disagreement on the implications of abstraction.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express differing views on the significance of visualization versus computation in mathematics, and the relationship between mathematical laws and reality remains unresolved. Additionally, the procedural note regarding forum rules introduces an external constraint on the discussion.

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How do you think of numbers when you're doing math? I particularly feel like sometimes we get to close to acting like computers. We just scan through a list of symbols and compute another list of symbols that makes sense in a certain context. We hardly ever think of things concretely and how they would apply to real life scenarios. When solving equations we just go through a series of steps and come up with an answer, never thinking of what each of those steps actually imply. I know math is meant to be abstract and all, but what are your views on the subject? Should we even be bothered by this abstraction?
 
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When doing some computations, it is much easier to just compute and not think. That's why we have the numbers and all sorts of a theorems that we could apply to carry out our computations efficiently. Not to mention digital computers which can only compute and never think.

But sometimes it helps when you think about the significance of numbers involved, which is to say you think about their physical meaning. This can help you check that the computation is reasonable, and sometimes it could help you simplify you computation very significantly.

There is no simple answer.
 
Numbers and computations are a small part of math.
 
Mathematics is just abstract.

As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. - Albert Einstein
 
I try to turn what I'm doing into something I can visualize. I often see math expressions and see relationships and proportional groups and such. For me it is idiosyncratic because I like visual more than algebraic.

One of the most interesting math papers/pdf I have ever read is one by Poincare on "intuition and mathematics". He mentions that new math innovations come from creativity and intuitional leaps. He mentions a lot of mathematicians and perceives their mathematical style and perspective. I *really* enjoyed it.
 
When starting a thread on philosophy, please post it in the philosophy forum. Also, you need to follow the rules of the philosophy forum. I am locking this thread, since it does not meet the rules of the forum.
 

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