I What areas of maths and physics do I need to understand explosion physics?

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Understanding explosion physics requires a solid grasp of fluid dynamics and the mathematical principles behind blast wave behavior, particularly in relation to air speed and overpressure. Key discussions revolve around the derivation of equations from Jorge S. Diaz's seminar, where participants express confusion over specific mathematical steps and constants involved in the calculations. The conversation highlights the importance of foundational knowledge in compressible fluid dynamics, as well as the need for additional resources to clarify complex concepts. Participants also explore the relationship between explosion size, distance from the epicenter, and resulting overpressure, noting discrepancies with existing models like Nukemap. Overall, the dialogue emphasizes the intricate nature of blast wave physics and the necessity for further study and collaboration to deepen understanding.
  • #31
Frabjous said:
Give me a day or two.
Alright, thanks!
 
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Kinney "Explosive Shocks in Air" 1962
 

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Kinney and Graham "Explosive Shocks in Air" 1985

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  • #35
What does the mach number comparison look like?
 
  • #36
Frabjous said:
What does the mach number comparison look like?
Do you mean compare overpressure to the mach number of the shockwave?
 
  • #37
Try to follow the analysis in the paper.
It starts with z vs t
Then comes mach number.
Then comes pressure.
 
  • #38
Frabjous said:
Try to follow the analysis in the paper.
It starts with z vs t
Then comes mach number.
Then comes pressure.
Isn't that what I did when I got the result I'm currently testing? I took the result for ##\frac{dz}{dt}## and changed it to an expression of the mach number, then used that expression to calculate the pressure (and overpressure)
 
  • #39
Ax_xiom said:
Isn't that what I did when I got the result I'm currently testing? I took the result for ##\frac{dz}{dt}## and changed it to an expression of the mach number, then used that expression to calculate the pressure (and overpressure)
You want to see where the disagreement starts. Then you try to figure out the discrepancy there.
 
  • #40
Frabjous said:
You want to see where the disagreement starts. Then you try to figure out the discrepancy there.
So plot overpressure against mach number?
 
  • #41
No. Start with position vs time. Figure 3 of the paper.
 
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  • #42
Ok, is ##t_0## or ##t_d## the column I should be looking at for this?
 
  • #44
ta
Use the nondimensional forms like in the paper.
 
  • #45
renormalize said:
Thanks for citing the Diaz & Rigby paper. We had a poster some time back who vehemently insisted that a blast-wave shock-front could propagate at the speed-of-sound ##c## and cited data from the 2020 Beirut chemical explosion to back his claim. But the analysis in this paper clearly demonstrates that the Beirut shock front traveled supersonically and only approached ##c## ("acoustic wave") as ##t\rightarrow\infty##:
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I mean, the definition of a blast wave requires it to be supersonic. It will eventually weaken into an acoustic wave. So that was pretty silly by said poster.
 
  • #46
The topic you should study is called "Compressible reactive flow". This is a branch of fluid dynamics which combines chemical reactions with fluid mechanics. There is a short introduction to it in the Book, "Applied Mathematics" and "nonlinear partial differential equations" by Logan.
 

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