What Book Helps Understand Electromagnetism and Quantum Physics Concepts?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding suitable books to help a beginner understand concepts in electricity, magnetism, and quantum physics. The focus is on resources that balance simplicity with some mathematical content, while also addressing deeper conceptual questions about these phenomena.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions their neighbor's interest in electricity and magnetism, noting a desire for practical projects and a basic understanding of the concepts involved.
  • The same participant expresses frustration in finding books that either lack mathematical content or are too advanced, seeking a balance that includes simple equations and gradual learning.
  • A specific book, "A Kitchen Course in Electricity and Magnetism," is identified as a potential resource, though concerns are raised about its reliance on classical physics and the Bohr model, which may not satisfy the neighbor's interest in quantum physics.
  • There is a critique of the book's explanations regarding magnetic fields and electric currents, suggesting a need for deeper insights into the underlying phenomena.
  • Another participant shares a link to the same book, indicating a level of skepticism about the complexity of understanding magnetic fields.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of simplicity in explanations, while another humorously acknowledges this sentiment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for resources that are accessible yet informative, but there is no consensus on specific book recommendations or the adequacy of the suggested materials.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of understanding and expectations regarding the depth of explanations and the mathematical rigor of the resources being discussed.

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So my neighbor is interested in electricity and magnetism. Well he's actually been watching youtube videos and thinks he can make some kind of free energy device. But anyways I thought it could be fun to do some real projects with him like playing with magnets, making a diy DC generator, and things like that. He is interested in understanding how electricity and magnetism actually works and does ask some really good questions. He has a very slight understanding of some quantum physics concepts with a hefty heap of pseudoscience in there.

So I've been trying to find a book we could work through that either has some projects in it or would be easy to learn some concepts and think of a project that involves them.
The problem I'm running into is that the books I'm finding either have absolutely no math in them or advanced high school/college level math.

I would like to find a book that has some math - but something really simple and basic. I think I'll need to walk him through some really basic math and would be nice to find a book with some relatively simple equations that are very easy to work with and see how they were derived. It would be nice to find something that slowly builds up basic math concepts as you work on projects or go through the book.

I stumbled upon A Kitchen Course in Electricity and Magnetism

This seems ALMOST exactly what I'm looking with just a few equations in it such as coulomb's law, Ohms law, lorentz force, etc.

The only downside is that it explains everything in terms of the bohr model of the atom and classical physics. Which is fine but he's really interested in what is actually happening ie quantum physics. What IS magnetism actually, electric charge, gravity, etc.

It's also a bit lacking with some of its explanations. For example it says magnetic fields are caused by electric currents. Which is a bit of a cop out since we know electric and magnetic fields actually cant exist without the other. And really gives no explanation to how a permanent magnet might work (ie unpaired electrons in the valence shell), even though use of permanent magnets are prevalent throughout the book.

So I'm trying to figure out if there's anything out there that is really basic like this but also maybe just has some basic tid bit in there about how some of this phenomena actually works on a deeper level but maybe just being conceptual at that point without any math.

Or perhaps something to supplement this book with so we can pick a concept and go a little bit deeper with it in another book - but again something that is more conceptual and light on the math.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and if you all have any suggestions I appreciate it. Cheers!
 
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physicurious said:
So my neighbor is interested in electricity and magnetism. Well he's actually been watching youtube videos and thinks he can make some kind of free energy device.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/1492656291/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
Well, you should make things as simple as possible, but not simpler...
 
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Well, you should make things as simple as possible, but not simpler...
I saw what you did there.
 

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