What books or aid can I use to learn differential geometry

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around resources for learning differential geometry, including books, online materials, and specific areas of focus within the subject. Participants share their recommendations and experiences, addressing both classical and modern approaches to differential geometry.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest starting with classical differential geometry, focusing on curves and surfaces in Euclidean space, before moving to more abstract theories involving manifolds.
  • Recommended texts include Do Carmo, Pressley, Bar, Millman and Parker, and O'Neill, each with varying levels of difficulty and exercise quality.
  • One participant mentions the importance of having resources that include problems to solve, indicating a preference for practical application.
  • Another participant highlights the value of modern texts such as "The Shape of Space" by Jeffrey Weeks and John M. Lee's trilogy on manifolds.
  • Some participants express a preference for books that include computer source codes for implementing differential geometry algorithms.
  • Marcel Berger's works are mentioned as potentially being at a research level, prompting questions about their accessibility for learners.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of foundational knowledge in calculus and linear algebra for studying differential geometry. However, there are multiple competing views on which specific resources are most effective, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to learning the subject.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the varying levels of difficulty in the recommended texts and the potential lack of exercises in certain books. There is also mention of the need for practical applications and computational resources, which may not be covered in all suggested materials.

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This discussion may be useful for students and self-learners interested in differential geometry, educators seeking teaching resources, and those looking for a variety of perspectives on effective learning materials in the field.

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I am very curious with what differential geometry is.
Can you send me links, books, and etc? I want to learn it.
Thank you in advance
 
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Ok, but I need some resource that also gives me problems to solve...
 
What is your current knowledge? Do you know calculus? Multivariable calculus? Linear Algebra? Topology? Real Analysis? Etc.

Differential Geometry is essentially split into two parts. The first part is classical differential geometry and deals with curves and surfaces embedded in Euclidean space. The second part abstracts this theory and does away with the underlying Euclidean space. It is the theory of manifolds.

I highly suggest to learn the classical case first. It is also very beautiful. Things you should learn are the Theorema Egregium and the Gauss-Bonnet theorem.

The classical book to consider is Do Carmo: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0132125897/?tag=pfamazon01-20 The exercises are often not easy.

There is also Pressley: https://www.amazon.com/dp/184882890X/?tag=pfamazon01-20 This is more elementary

One of my favorites is Bar: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AKE1X8E/?tag=pfamazon01-20 But this book suffers from a real lack of exercises

Also very good is Millman and Parker: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0132641437/?tag=pfamazon01-20 This one has very good exercises which aren't too difficult. But the book is quite old and feels quite old.

Finally, there is O' Neill https://www.amazon.com/dp/0120887355/?tag=pfamazon01-20 This book does everything with the modern language of forms. This might be weird to people.
 
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Yes I learned integral and differential calculus and linear algebra.
 
Mathmanman said:
Yes I learned integral and differential calculus and linear algebra.

Then any of the books I listed should be fine.
 
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Also very good is Millman and Parker: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0132641437/?tag=pfamazon01-20 This one has very good exercises which aren't too difficult. But the book is quite old and feels quite old.

This amuses me because I can remember buying my copy probably not too long after it came out.

I think it's still an excellent, readable text.

There's also this very polished online text:

http://www.math.uga.edu/~shifrin/ShifrinDiffGeo.pdf

To prepare for a presentation using differential forms, the book by Bachmann is a gentle -- though very brief -- introduction:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001RGEHWI/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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For a more modern introduction to differential geometry start with The Shape of Space by Jeffrey Weeks then read John M Lee Trilogy (Topological Manifolds - Smooth Manifolds - Riemannian Manifolds).

About classical differential geometry, i love differential geometry by JJ Stoker, not sure why it's not mentioned often. the other good one is geometry from differentiable viewpoint by John McCleary.
 
Mathmanman said:
I am very curious with what differential geometry is.
Can you send me links, books, and etc? I want to learn it.
Thank you in advance

Differential geometry has a variety of applications. For example, mechanics of shells is one of such areas, because it profoundly deals with surfaces in 3D space. If you want a book of real value, you need something with computer source codes, implementing various differential geometry algorithms, so you'd have some really working stuff "to play with". For example, if you are interested to learn about such thing as lines of principal curvature on surfaces, including related numerical methods and software codes, try this (Chapter 5 is devoted specifically to that subject):

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0646594044/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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Marcel Berger's books(geometry revealed,differential geometry and a panoramic view of riemannian geometry) are apparently masterful,but I think they're research-level,am I wrong?
 

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