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The discussion revolves around a vibrant exchange of food-related topics, with participants sharing favorite recipes, culinary experiences, and kitchen mishaps. A notable focus is on lentil recipes, with suggestions for dishes like chocolate lentil cake and lentil lasagna, as well as creative uses of lentils in various cuisines. Participants also share recipes for pasta with pesto, grilled shrimp marinades, and Indian dishes like dahl and gulab jamun. There’s a strong emphasis on improvisation in cooking, with many contributors discussing how they cook "by feel" rather than following strict measurements. The conversation also touches on cultural influences, such as the appreciation for Lebanese and South Indian cuisine, and the importance of traditional meals like the Indian sadya. Additionally, humorous anecdotes about kitchen disasters and the challenges of cooking techniques, like frying mozzarella sticks, add a lighthearted tone to the thread. Overall, the thread celebrates the joy of cooking and the communal sharing of food experiences.
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when I was 16 or 17 we got someone to buy me and a couple of my friends a couple of cases of beer. So we went out to Willow Creek Pond for the weekend. We took all our fishing gear, but someone dropped our only knife into the water and lost it. At the end of the day we were drunk enough that we would just throw the trout on the fire and eat them when they popped open. No need to gut.
 
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tribdog said:
when I was 16 or 17 we got someone to buy me and a couple of my friends a couple of cases of beer. So we went out to Willow Creek Pond for the weekend. We took all our fishing gear, but someone dropped our only knife into the water and lost it. At the end of the day we were drunk enough that we would just throw the trout on the fire and eat them when they popped open. No need to gut.
You can de-head and gut trout with your fingers. I love sharp little (trout) knives, but when I was a kid, the trout came home on a dry stringer.
 
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This morning I made a casserole. Rotini, chicken thighs, italian sausage, green bellpeppers, mushrooms, summer squash, and chopped baby spinach with alfredo sauce covered liberally with mozzarella and baked.

It turned out quite well.
 
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TheStatutoryApe said:
This morning I made a casserole. Rotini, chicken thighs, italian sausage, green bellpeppers, mushrooms, summer squash, and chopped baby spinach with alfredo sauce covered liberally with mozzarella and baked.

It turned out quite well.
Sounds yummy. I need some new recipes.
 
  • #1,655
I going to buy a smoked turkey today. That's guaranteed good eats for at least two weeks. I'll be making some tasty smoked turkey and bean soup with the carcass, YUM!
 
  • #1,656
Cooler weather is here, so while I was working clearing out the garden, my wife started baking zucchini/pineapple bread and apple bread. She took a loaf of each to our organic-gardener neighbor, and he showed up a bit later with a backhoe to rip an oak stump out of our front lawn. Get about 1/2 hour of heavy-equipment time for two loaves of fruit bread? Sounds like a hell of a deal. We don't barter since there is not expectation of payback - it always happens somehow, though, sooner or later. His wife has already started planning for Christmas wreaths, and I'm sure she'll go overboard on ours again.

Here is the best zucchini bread you'll ever have. Watch the cooking times if you decide to cook it in muffin tins instead of loaves. We usually have muffins for ourselves and our parents, and give loaves to larger households. This recipe came out of my mother's recipe-box, so it is over 30 years old at least.

Zucchini bread

2 eggs
3/4 cup oil
2 cup sugar
2 tsp vanilla
2 cup ground zucchini
2 cup crushed pineapple (drained)
3-1/2 cup flour
2 tsp baking soda
1 tbs salt
1/2 tsp baking powder
1-1/2 tsp cinnamon
3/4 tsp nutmeg
1 cup nuts
1 cup raisins

bake for 1 hour at 350 deg
 
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tribdog said:
I've never tried authentic soy sauce so I don't know how they compare. I grew up with LaChoy soy sauce, and I like it. I don't like Kikoman.

It's an entirely different flavor, and very strong. It takes some time to get used to cooking with it, because when I first started using it, I'd add the same amount I used to add of the Kikoman, and it would be overwhelming. A little splash will flavor as much as a cup of the regular grocery store varieties. Since it comes in these giant bottles (about a liter or more) that are usually cheaper than the tiny bottle of LaChoy or Kikoman, it's really a bargain to get it from a Chinese grocery. Of course, that requires having access to a Chinese grocery. The bottle I have moved with me...it's lasted that long.
 
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Moonbear said:
It's an entirely different flavor, and very strong. It takes some time to get used to cooking with it, because when I first started using it, I'd add the same amount I used to add of the Kikoman, and it would be overwhelming. A little splash will flavor as much as a cup of the regular grocery store varieties. Since it comes in these giant bottles (about a liter or more) that are usually cheaper than the tiny bottle of LaChoy or Kikoman, it's really a bargain to get it from a Chinese grocery. Of course, that requires having access to a Chinese grocery. The bottle I have moved with me...it's lasted that long.
I found an Asian grocery store not far from here. I need to go and get some stuff.

When I lived in DC, the Navy Exchange store had a Filipino food section where you could get some great stuff. My Filipino friend taught me how to make the best lumpia in the world.
 
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Evo, here is a no-bake cookie recipe that is identical in ingredients and very, very close in amounts to the recipes my wife uses. I found two no-bake chocolate/oatmeal recipes in the box and they are so close to this that I decided not to type it all out. My wife tinkers with quantities, anyway, so none of her written recipes is gospel.

http://southernfood.about.com/od/nobakecookies/r/bl90710a.htm
 
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Thanks turbo!

It's fall sweater weather, so I am starting a big pot of chili.

I also bought 10 pounds of chicken breast because they were on sale for 99 cents a pound and didn't have the back bone or fat on them, so a really good buy. I just don't care for white meat much because it tends to be dry and flavorless compared to the dark meat. Alton Brown agrees, so I am right, once again. :biggrin:

I need a recipe that will work with the white meat. I wanted to do a fricasee, but I don't think it will turn out well with just white meat.

Suggestions?
 
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Evo, I have a lentils question. Are you supposed to cook them til they are mushy or are they supposed to have a little crunch?
 
  • #1,662
I prefer them cooked until soft, simmer about 45 minutes, but I have a friend that loves them cooked 30 minutes. Make sure you have them covered by at least two inches of water while cooking so they don't dry out and scorch.

Also, I only add salt and garlic to them, maybe a bit of chopped onion. They have a wonderful flavor that too many people hide with tons of spices and meat and other weird stuff.

But if you don't like the taste of lentils, then I guess add a lot of other stuff.
 
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turbo-1 said:
bake for 1 hour at 350 deg

F or C? :biggrin:
 
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Kelvin
 
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Evo said:
Thanks turbo!

It's fall sweater weather, so I am starting a big pot of chili.

I also bought 10 pounds of chicken breast because they were on sale for 99 cents a pound and didn't have the back bone or fat on them, so a really good buy. I just don't care for white meat much because it tends to be dry and flavorless compared to the dark meat. Alton Brown agrees, so I am right, once again. :biggrin:

I need a recipe that will work with the white meat. I wanted to do a fricasee, but I don't think it will turn out well with just white meat.

Suggestions?
I have been brining whole chickens and turkeys for roasting, but haven't tried brining chicken parts. I wouldn't bother brining dark meat, but it's worth a try with breasts. I'm normally not a big fan of white meat, but the breast meat on a brined chicken or turkey is really good. Disclaimer: I always roast poultry breast-down so that fat from the dark meat migrates to the breast, and that may be a factor. You might try roasting each breast with a strip of bacon draped over it...
 
  • #1,666
Nice moist white meat is my favorite.
 
  • #1,667
I've been watching the candy competitions on the Food Network and these people have absolutely no common sense.

They make the pieces out of chocolate and they keep trying to attach these big pieces to small flat bases and wonder why they keep falling over. HEY DUMMIES, why don't you make a groove or cut out that the attachment sits in and then add the chocolate to make it stick. By resting the bottom of the attachment in the part you are attaching it to instead of trying to sit it on top of a flat piece, you give it so much more stability. What's wrong with these people?
 
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turbo-1 said:
Zucchini bread

2 cup crushed pineapple (drained)

Canned?

1 cup nuts

Walnuts? Hazelnuts? Anynuts?
 
  • #1,669
Yes, Borek, the recipe is set up for canned pineapple. It's an old recipe, and it's only in recent years that fresh pineapple has been readily available in stores here. We use crushed walnuts, but any kind of nuts you like will be fine - pecans would be fine too, as would hazelnuts.
 
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turbo-1 said:
Yes, Borek, the recipe is set up for canned pineapple. It's an old recipe, and it's only in recent years that fresh pineapple has been readily available in stores here. We use crushed walnuts, but any kind of nuts you like will be fine - pecans would be fine too, as would hazelnuts.

Baked with walnuts. Good [PLAIN]http://www.bpp.com.pl/obraski/applause.gif.[/URL] We make similar cake with carrots.
 
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Evo said:
HEY DUMMIES, why don't you make a groove or cut out that the attachment sits in and then add the chocolate to make it stick. By resting the bottom of the attachment in the part you are attaching it to instead of trying to sit it on top of a flat piece, you give it so much more stability. What's wrong with these people?

That's physics and/or mechanical engineering, this is cooking contest.
 
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Borek said:
That's physics and/or mechanical engineering, this is cooking contest.
No, taste has nothing to do with it, it's the structural integrity that counts. The other day the contest was building a bridge out of cereal. The winner's entry was ghastly, ugly, but he got the most parts up without it falling apart, so he won. It was so wrong, since the technically and aesthetically superior entry lost because he took more time and made a quality bridge, but still had a couple of pieces left to add. The guy that slapped a piece of crap together won. The other entries fell apart and didn't even make it to the judging.
 
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I bought my first clove of garlic today. It was a day of firsts. I ate an Evo sandwich for the first time. I also bought radishes for the first time ever. They were just so cheap I couldn't pass them up. turns out radishes are HOT!
 
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tribdog said:
I bought my first clove of garlic today. It was a day of firsts. I ate an Evo sandwich for the first time. I also bought radishes for the first time ever. They were just so cheap I couldn't pass them up. turns out radishes are HOT!
OK, trib - you can use a toaster oven or a microwave, but you should break the bulb apart and heat one of the cloves until the center is cooked. Then nip one end of the skin of the clove, and squeeze it out like toothpaste onto a cracker of your choice with maybe some mustard and cheese or sardines (or all of the above) and enjoy. Garlic is also great this way in twice-baked potatoes. Bake the potato and garlic at the same time. When the potato is done, split the top, mash up the insides a bit with a fork, squeeze in the baked garlic, add some butter, salt and pepper, and top with some sharp cheese. Then back into the oven at high heat (or under the broiler - even better) until the cheese melts and starts to brown a bit. Mmmmmm!
 
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Evo said:
No, taste has nothing to do with it, it's the structural integrity that counts.

Oh, OK, I thought 'candy competition' implies taste.

What will be next? Bridge competition in which you have to make bridge out of steel and concrete... and the yummiest wins? Strength doesn't matter? :smile:
 
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turbo-1 said:
OK, trib - you can use a toaster oven or a microwave, but you should break the bulb apart and heat one of the cloves until the center is cooked. Then nip one end of the skin of the clove, and squeeze it out like toothpaste onto a cracker of your choice with maybe some mustard and cheese or sardines (or all of the above) and enjoy. Garlic is also great this way in twice-baked potatoes. Bake the potato and garlic at the same time. When the potato is done, split the top, mash up the insides a bit with a fork, squeeze in the baked garlic, add some butter, salt and pepper, and top with some sharp cheese. Then back into the oven at high heat (or under the broiler - even better) until the cheese melts and starts to brown a bit. Mmmmmm!

the garlic was for Evo's lentils. Should I do it the same way?
 
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tribdog said:
the garlic was for Evo's lentils. Should I do it the same way?
Depends - when I made lentil soup, I would crush the garlic and cook it (along with onions, carrots, and celery) with the lentils.
 
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tribdog said:
the garlic was for Evo's lentils. Should I do it the same way?
No. You just peel one or two garlic cloves, then finely chop them and throw them into the lentils when you add the water.
 
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knives are involved?
 
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turbo-1 said:
OK, trib - you can use a toaster oven or a microwave, but you should break the bulb apart and heat one of the cloves until the center is cooked. Then nip one end of the skin of the clove, and squeeze it out like toothpaste onto a cracker of your choice with maybe some mustard and cheese or sardines (or all of the above) and enjoy. Garlic is also great this way in twice-baked potatoes. Bake the potato and garlic at the same time. When the potato is done, split the top, mash up the insides a bit with a fork, squeeze in the baked garlic, add some butter, salt and pepper, and top with some sharp cheese. Then back into the oven at high heat (or under the broiler - even better) until the cheese melts and starts to brown a bit. Mmmmmm!

I just threw a clove into the microwave and the damn thing exploded like popcorn.
 
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How is the perfect poached egg done? i have tried all the tricks, adding vinegar to the water, swirling the water around, having the water just simmering, but no matter i all ways end up with the white a frothy gunge.
 
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tribdog said:
I just threw a clove into the microwave and the damn thing exploded like popcorn.
Oops. Probably bad advice not to tell you to use a low setting with a sealed system (fully skinned garlic clove). Sorry.

We usually use our large oven or our toaster oven to prepare garlic that way.
 
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I'm going to guess at an answer, but I've never poached an egg or seen anyone poach an egg. get a big spoon, crack the egg into the spoon. Slowly lower the spoon into the hot water.
 
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turbo-1 said:
Oops. Probably bad advice not to tell you to use a low setting with a sealed system (fully skinned garlic clove). Sorry.

We usually use our large oven or our toaster oven to prepare garlic that way.

Sometimes you need to stop and realize who you are talking to.
Actually it was sort of cool. I hadn't realized that garlic cloves are air tight. Once I wanted a hard boiled egg and all I had was a microwave. so I put a bowl of water into the microwave and an egg in the water. It seemed to be working just fine, until the water evaporated. THAT was a truly impressive explosion. Police showed up after that one.
 
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wolram said:
How is the perfect poached egg done? i have tried all the tricks, adding vinegar to the water, swirling the water around, having the water just simmering, but no matter i all ways end up with the white a frothy gunge.
I poach them in a cast-iron frying pan because cast-iron loses heat very slowly. Bring the water to a simmer, shut off the heat, and gently introduce the eggs to the water after it stops roiling around, and baste them with hot water using a spoon. As you baste them, you'll notice that the membrane over the yolk gets pale and whitish. Try not to disturb the water in the immediate vicinity of the eggs - get your hot basting water from near the edge of the pan. When the yolk has firmed up so that you can handle the eggs, you may want to turn the eggs with a slotted spoon, or you can continue to baste them from the top until they are done. I like to serve them on buttered rye toast, lightly seasoned with salt and pepper.

If you try to shorten the time to make poached eggs by using higher heat, not waiting until the water is quiescent, or poaching them over an active flame, you will not get good results. BTW, this is the way my mother cooked and served them. There may be equally good ways to get great results, but why mess with something that has worked for 50+ years?
 
  • #1,686
No wonder i could never get it right, thanks Turbo i will try that tomorrow.
 
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wolram said:
No wonder i could never get it right, thanks Turbo i will try that tomorrow.
Good luck, Woolie! You don't need a lot of water in the frying pan, just enough to float the eggs. 1/2 - 3/4 inch should be OK, though you might want the water deeper at first until you get the hang of it. Spoon up the basting water from the edges of the pan and gently drizzle it over the yolks. I hope this helps. If you don't get great results, post back and we'll try to figure out what might have gone wrong. Remember that the water does not have to be boiling or even simmering to cook poached eggs, and that the use of a heavy cast-iron pan is designed to keep the water hot for a long time.
 
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wolram said:
How is the perfect poached egg done?
You buy an egg poacher. It's a metal insert with cups for the eggs. Goes into a skillet of simmering water. The water never touches the eggs.
 
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Evo said:
You buy an egg poacher. It's a metal insert with cups for the eggs. Goes into a skillet of simmering water. The water never touches the eggs.

I used to have one and loved it (but it bent in several moves). Now I find "soft-boiling" suits me fine... just hack the soft boiled egg in half with a sharp knife over buttery toast, and then spoon it out quickly. add salt, pepper, and thyme. mmm... my dinner two nights ago!
 
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physics girl phd said:
I used to have one and loved it (but it bent in several moves). Now I find "soft-boiling" suits me fine... just hack the soft boiled egg in half with a sharp knife over buttery toast, and then spoon it out quickly. add salt, pepper, and thyme. mmm... my dinner two nights ago!
I love soft boiled eggs. I love dipping fingers of french bread into the egg yolk. My mom had those little soft boiled egg holders and a miniature spoon to eat the egg out of the shell. Yummy!
 
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Evo said:
You buy an egg poacher. It's a metal insert with cups for the eggs. Goes into a skillet of simmering water. The water never touches the eggs.
Heretic!
 
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turbo-1 said:
Heretic!
:biggrin: They *are* perfect.
 
  • #1,693
Andrew Zimmern is having a Halloween special tonight. I can't wait.
 
  • #1,694
Evo said:
I love soft boiled eggs. I love dipping fingers of french bread into the egg yolk. My mom had those little soft boiled egg holders and a miniature spoon to eat the egg out of the shell. Yummy!

skinny end up or fat end? what was that cartoon where they went to war over this?
 
  • #1,695
Evo said:
:biggrin: They *are* perfect.
They are perfectly semi spherical on the bottom, coated with oil, and cooked at low temperature in a dry environment. They are not poached eggs, though. I'm not a real purist about a lot of cooking techniques, but this is one that is easy to do with minimal skill and a bit of attention to detail. I can make perfect poached eggs over a campfire 'way out in the woods with nothing more than a frying pan and a couple of spoons and a bit of water.

When my wife and I go camping, we've got a medium-sized Roughneck tub that contains our entire kitchen, and we only use a fraction of that for a weekend's cooking. "Honey, where is that coddled-egg fixture? Where is the French-pressed coffee maker? Where is my copper sauce pot?" Nope! Everything in that tub is simple and can be used for multiple tasks.
 
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turbo-1 said:
"Honey, where is that coddled-egg fixture? Where is the French-pressed coffee maker? Where is my copper sauce pot?"
BTW, we don't even own ANY of these do-dads, much less pine for them on camping trips. My major concession is my little personal espresso-maker. I pack it with enough ground coffee to make 4 demitasses of strong hot black espresso, and that's my morning mug every day.
 
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turbo-1 said:
They are perfectly semi spherical on the bottom, coated with oil, and cooked at low temperature in a dry environment.
No, you lightly butter the egg poaching cup and you simmer it in water. Not dry heat. Yummy, flavorful, and easy. If I had to do it the old way in water and vinegar, I'd prefer to just fry it. I have a nonstick skillet that I can fry an egg in without any oil, if I wanted. While it takes time and skill to properly poach an egg in water, they have never appealed to me, taste wise.
 
  • #1,698
Evo said:
While it takes time and skill to properly poach an egg in water, they have never appealed to me, taste wise.
Evo! I'm ashamed. It takes minimal skill and only a bit of patience to make perfect poached (coddled, my grandmother called them) eggs every time. I can see how one might not like them, but it's difficult for me to imagine how someone might prefer the McDonald's method of cooking "poached" eggs over the real deal. About the only advantage McD's method has is that the eggs are very predictable in size and can be incorporated into their arcane breakfast menu of foods that you never ate as a kid.
 
  • #1,699
Evo said:
Andrew Zimmern is having a Halloween special tonight. I can't wait.
Oh my god, they keep showing him biting into the face of that guinea pig. :frown:
 
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I ended up with a boiled yolk, the white stayed in the pan.
 

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