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The discussion revolves around a vibrant exchange of food-related topics, with participants sharing favorite recipes, culinary experiences, and kitchen mishaps. A notable focus is on lentil recipes, with suggestions for dishes like chocolate lentil cake and lentil lasagna, as well as creative uses of lentils in various cuisines. Participants also share recipes for pasta with pesto, grilled shrimp marinades, and Indian dishes like dahl and gulab jamun. There’s a strong emphasis on improvisation in cooking, with many contributors discussing how they cook "by feel" rather than following strict measurements. The conversation also touches on cultural influences, such as the appreciation for Lebanese and South Indian cuisine, and the importance of traditional meals like the Indian sadya. Additionally, humorous anecdotes about kitchen disasters and the challenges of cooking techniques, like frying mozzarella sticks, add a lighthearted tone to the thread. Overall, the thread celebrates the joy of cooking and the communal sharing of food experiences.
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Evo said:
Then you need to go to a factory/industrial bakery that's set up for mass production. But that quantity at once is nonsensical, and we're not getting into a nonsensical scenario.

The thing is that i will start my own production. Say the machine can make 6x6 eggs / min on a 8h day that will be about 17000 eggs..

Thought about making a hole in each of the 36 eggs and sucking out the white with the right pressure only the white should come out but then some of the white will be left in the bottom along with the yelk and the again maybe the yelk is randomly placed inside the egg, haven't really seen a egg on the inside until it´s cracked...

As you can se all this is just brainstorming : )

Found what I am looking for now, http://www.sanovoeng.com

Thank you all! :)
 
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Astronuc said:
Omnivorous. Pretty much anything that is edible and somethings that are not. :biggrin:

Oi! My thoughts :blushing::rolleyes: I'm sure you meant clay or something innocent like that...or paper maybe:-p
 
  • #2,643
I'm cooking a turkey, I want to go to sleep, but it's not done. It was frozen solid at 2pm, 14 pounds. I did a rapid thaw in water in a large water cooler so the whole thing was submerged. I've never thawed anything so fast. I kept it in it's watertight plastic wrapper so the water wouldn't leach anything out. It's a Butterball.
 
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Supper last night was incredible. Our neighbors invited us to their place for supper. There was the four of us plus their adult daughter, plus her two daughters (5 and 7). Seven people total (two very small) and I couldn't believe the spread! 10 lobsters, about 10 pounds of steamers (New England clams), and a dozen ears of sweet corn, all cooked together clam-bake style. 2 pounds of fresh sea scallops broiled in garlic butter, and 3 thick rib-eye steaks, marinated and grilled. Plus there were hot rolls and a large foil pack of grilled mixed vegetables. They had said "don't bring anything" but we couldn't do that, so I made 2 pounds of my hot spicy marinated grilled shrimp to take down, and my wife made a large tossed salad with fresh cukes, lettuce, arugula, and scallions from our garden, along with shaved almonds, dried cranberries, and small tomatoes. She topped the salad with fresh raspberries from our patch. She also made up a batch of tabouli, and we brought another 2 quarts of fresh raspberries. As it happened, they were planning to make ice cream after supper in an ice cream ball. The ice cream was very nice, made with real vanilla beans, and the raspberries were a great topping for that. They'll be eating left-overs for days, including clam rolls, lobster rolls, steak. We brought home a big tupperware container of lobster meat for lobster rolls, too. There are no left-over spicy grilled shrimp. Those were the first things to disappear.
 
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The neighbors that I mentioned in the previous post are at it again. My wife called them yesterday to ask Al if he thought the super-expensive pressure canners with the t-bolts and lugs were better than the Prestos and others, and he said "come on down here."

They still garden a lot but due to time pressures they don't process food like they used to, so they gave us:
A 22-qt Presto pressure canner with accessories, full of canning lids and rings.
A "tomato mill" that extracts juice from fresh tomatoes while removing seeds and skins.
An Italian crank-driven green-bean slicer (I always thought French-style sliced beans were French!)
An electric dehydrator with at least a dozen racks so that my wife can process and preserve our herbs.
There's more, but that's enough to recount for now. If anybody has considered the thread about moving to Maine, the house for sale is right between mine and his. There is so much produce, labor, and possessions flying back and forth up here, it's ridiculous! Not a penny of cash ever gets passed.

Tonight, I took them a jar of sweet bread-and-butter pickles, and we will provide more. We'll make hot pepper jellies this summer and spicy cranberry jams, and give them out for Christmas. Al started me out growing hard-neck garlics and since then, we have been the local "Johnny Garlic-Seeds" for dozens of people. We always grow way more than we need, and the excess goes to people who are willing to till and toil and grow their own.

This ain't your supermarket's food.
 
  • #2,646
Today, the humidity and heat were a bit much for me. I spent time in the garden pruning inderterminant tomatoes and tying them to the fence. I needed to get inside to breathe, so some traditional roles were reversed (a bit).

I punched down, separated, and formed loaves of the Beer-Barrel rye bread the my wife mixed earlier, and took care of rising and baking those. I also sliced and chopped gallons of cukes, peppers, onions, and some garlic that would go into our bread-and-butter pickles (usually a solo effort for the last few years), and snapped and Frenched a couple of pecks of green beans so that they could be pressure-canned for the winter.

This was a busy day, but one that will feel pretty good next winter when we use the food. I have to feel pretty good about asking my wife about how long we needed to boil the pickle jars in the water-bath to seal them, and she said "You've been doing this for years, and I forgot!"
 
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Evo Child and her boyfriend wanted buffalo wings the other day. I've often said that I make the best buffalo wings in the world. Better than any restaurant.

Evo Child and her BF raved over them then and have every day since.

You guys need to taste my wings!
 
  • #2,648
Pickling cucumbers for Evo:

Cucumbers - should be green, small, fresh and hard. Start with a small batch, like 2 kg, plus one whole dill, half a garlic, an inch of horseradish, several leaves of cherry. Dill and garlic are a must, you can experiment with other spices - for example mustard plant seeds.

Salt - you need a non iodized salt, in Poland it is sold as salt for pickles, could be kosher salt will do. Iodine stops bacterial growth so it slows down fermentation.

I have read commercially sold cucumbers are somehow sterilized when packed, so they don't have correct bacteria on the skin - that means fermentation won't start. I buy cucumbers for pickling at the local marketplace, they are just collected and brought there without any special treatment.

You will need a jar or several. 2 L will do. Look for a lid (or small plate, or something else) that you put INSIDE the jar and over the cucumbers, and something heavy (stone that will not split will do) that you can put on the lid to keep the cucumbers from going up. Wash or even scald stone/lid/jar.

Boil the water and dissolve salt - I am taking a heaped tablespoon per 1L of water, but the salt I am using is usually a little bit wet, so it is a large heap. Exact recipes call for 50 g per 1L. Let it cool down.

Wash the cucumbers but don't peel, nor remove ends.

Put them into a jar tighly, but not too tightly, together with dill and garlic cloves (peel the garlic), you may put them in layers or stick dill and garlic between. I take whole dill plant (just no underground part), break it and bend it, and put it into jar as a whole, but you may cut it into smaller pieces. Crushing the stem a little bit won't hurt. You want cucumbers to be tight as they will want to float, if they are tight enough they can't go up. Don't put too much - you want them covered and you don't want anything to be sticking out after you add the brine, and they will want to float. Once they start fermenting level of the brine will go up, so leave place for that, otherwise you will have a pool around the jar.

Pour brine over the cucumbers, put the small lid on them, put the stone on the lid. It is best if you have just a brine surface without anything sticking out. Close the jar with a normal lid - not necessarily too tightly.

Put in a not too bright place - neither warm nor cold, room temperature will do. Wait.

In a few days the brine will get cloudy - that's correct. If there is anything floating on the brine surface it can get covered with mold - it is better to avoid it, but it doesn't mean that the cucumbers are spoiled. Remove the mold. As long as they smell sour and don't stink they are OK. After 10 days/two weeks they should be already tasty, even if not fully fermented yet. They may be slimy to the touch - don't worry if they smell good. You may wash them before eating.

Note: this approach gives correct results almost always, but as with every natural fermentation, something can go wrong. A lot depends on cucumbers (they say if cucumbers were fertilized too much they won't get pickled), water (I have heard someone saying he always goes to his Mom to make pickled cucumbers, as when made from the water at his home they get soft) and place where they are prepared (my guess is that in some places air is full of germs). It is also told that women during menstruation should be not allowed to prepare cucumbers for pickling - no idea if there is any truth to it, but as in every folk lore, there might be some :biggrin:
 
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Oooh, thanks Borek. I will read some tips on this type of pickling. I saw a show about this procwess which reminded me of you pickles. This is the time of year to make some.
 
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Borek said:
In a few days the brine will get cloudy - that's correct. If there is anything floating on the brine surface it can get covered with mold - it is better to avoid it, but it doesn't mean that the cucumbers are spoiled. Remove the mold. As long as they smell sour and don't stink they are OK. After 10 days/two weeks they should be already tasty, even if not fully fermented yet. They may be slimy to the touch - don't worry if they smell good. You may wash them before eating.
I like eating pickled food, but I've always been afraid of making it myself.. the above description does not help :rolleyes:
Aren't you afraid of growing the wrong bacterium and causing food poisoning?
 
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Monique said:
I like eating pickled food, but I've always been afraid of making it myself.. the above description does not help :rolleyes:
Aren't you afraid of growing the wrong bacterium and causing food poisoning?

No.

I have heard it may happen, and I am not neglecting the possibility, but I know a lot of people doing it - and as far as I can tell it always works. And when it doesn't work, it is obvious from the smell.
 
  • #2,652
I was wondering, do you use 'regular' cucumbers or gherkins for the pickling? Gherkin pickles are very common around here, but I've never seen cucumber ones.
 
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Regular ones:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PicklingCucumbers.jpg

Actually I would never choose those, they are way too big. When pickled they would have a hole inside, filled just with sour brine. Not that it tastes bad or something, but when you want to cut them they squirt :biggrin:
 
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Those look like Gherkins to me? A cucumber would be slender, long and smooth with a particular cucumber taste, while a gherkin is small, fat and spiny with a neutral taste. I guess I just need to taste your pickle in order to make up my mind :biggrin: So you pickle them whole, or do you also cut them before the pickling? (I'm picking your brain here)
 
  • #2,655
I make my pickles with Northern pickling cucumbers and pick them small. They are spiny, crisp, with a nice tart taste.
 
  • #2,658
i like chocolates and ice creams
 
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Borek said:
According to this page:
http://www.foodsubs.com/Squcuke.html

Is it just me, or does anyone else find this image on the page distracting?:
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Does this ad purposefully hint at pregnancy-pickle-cravings? (which I didn't have BTW... I had tomato cravings...)
 

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Borek said:
I have never seen gherkins (or I didn't know I have seen them), but according to wiki picture they have different skin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gherkins.jpg

According to this page:

http://www.foodsubs.com/Squcuke.html

we are looking for Kirby cucumber.

Pickled whole.
Borek, if you can order the seeds, try out Northern Pickling cucumbers. They are high-yielding, crispy and tart. They have small bumps on the skin topped with tiny black spines, which rub off easily. We pick them when they're small (maybe 4") and pickle them whole for our dill pickles. Northern Pickling is an organic variant bred in Maine and the plants are extremely cold-tolerant, which is great for late season harvesting. Johnny's Selected Seeds carries them, but maybe you can find a source locally. This is one of those plants that fruits more heavily if you pick the cukes regularly before they get big.
 
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Monique, Borek - I clicked one of the links on the bottom of the page of the wiki image, and linked back to this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickling" that says they are gherkins, so maybe the same thing?

That recipe sounds very good, I may have to try it. I am very picky of my pickles, and haven't had a good one in 20 years. The friend that gave me the best pickle I ever had forgot to get the recipe from her grandma, so I never got it. :mad:

My brother has just started getting into pickling vegetables, and is nervously trying light fermentation. Light meaning just a couple of days... ;) I don't think he has had any batches go bad yet, and he is perfecting his recipe nicely. Perfect amount of heat, garlic, and vinegar. yum. I think I could easily get addicted to that stuff, I may have to start joining him with making it. Anybody else pickle or ferment vegetables?

Oh, and back to gherkins, I keep saying I want to grow these adorable things: http://www.territorialseed.com/product/7232/292" I wonder if the citrus flavor would make for a better pickle.
 
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Ms Music said:
Monique, Borek - I clicked one of the links on the bottom of the page of the wiki image, and linked back to this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickling" that says they are gherkins, so maybe the same thing?
It's ok, at least I know what it looks like. I would have picked the wrong type of cucumber for sure, the very long ones. I do have a container that would fit them though, I bought it especially to pickle vegetables, but it now houses my supply of spaghetti :smile:

I'm eating mixed vegetable pickles right now, together with pickled ginger.. yummy!
 
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Ms Music said:
Oh, and back to gherkins, I keep saying I want to grow these adorable things: http://www.territorialseed.com/product/7232/292" I wonder if the citrus flavor would make for a better pickle.
Those are cute! I haven't grown those, but I did grow lemon cucumbers (shown in borek's list). Those were very good.
 
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  • #2,664
My wife and I had guests for supper last night. Haven't seen them for a couple of years, so we planned ahead for a cookout. Menu:

Appetizers - cheddar and goat cheeses with various crackers, mustard, dips, small cocktail tomatoes and fresh cucumber spears, and home-made bread-and-butter pickles. Also my marinated spicy grilled jumbo shrimp. The marinade is based on red wine with olive oil, ketchup, lemon juice, molasses, salt, pepper, oregano and hot chili relish.

Main course - grilled rib-eyes with home-made dry rub, skinless chicken thighs basted with a sweet-hot BBQ sauce while grilling, grilled ears of sweet corn, tossed salad, macaroni salad with ham, bacon and ripe olives, and steamed fresh green beans in hot milk and butter.

Dessert - Soft German sugar-cookies stuffed with lemon curd and cake-y muffins topped with cinnamon sugar.

I've probably forgotten some stuff, but it was a fun cook-out. In retrospect, I should have boiled/steamed the corn instead of grilling it because it was sugar-and-gold corn, which is more delicate than the regular yellow varieties around here, and dries out more easily on the grill.

The rib-eyes came out pretty tender because I used a method championed by my gardening-buddy neighbor. Get the rib-eyes about 1-1/4"-1-1/2" thick and sear them over a hot bed of charcoal until you get a nice attractive char, then immediately put the steaks into a tight-sealing Tupperware container and get the lid on fast to keep in the heat. Let the steaks "sweat" and relax for at least 10-15 minutes before serving. When you're ready to serve the steaks, they practically fold in half when you pick them out of the Tupperware. I use a marinade dish with raised pyramid-shaped protuberances on the bottom and on the inside of the lid. This let's the juices drain from the steaks, and helps prevent re-absorption by keeping the steaks above the juices.
 
  • #2,665
You gave them garlic?
 
  • #2,666
Yes, they got German and Russian garlic, too, to take home, as well as a fresh loaf of Beer Barrel rye bread and some left-overs.
 
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physics girl phd said:
Is it just me, or does anyone else find this image on the page distracting?:
imgad?id=CLCf7cril8T8ahD6ARj6ATIITkeAv7Z2FhI.gif

Does this ad purposefully hint at pregnancy-pickle-cravings? (which I didn't have BTW... I had tomato cravings...)

I haven't been - and have no plans to be - pregnant, but those ads still annoy me. I do find them highly distracting. Not sure why.

I sure wish they would hurry up and pass into oblivion like every other ad ploy does.
 
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turbo-1 said:
I use a marinade dish with raised pyramid-shaped protuberances on the bottom and on the inside of the lid. This let's the juices drain from the steaks, and helps prevent re-absorption by keeping the steaks above the juices.
All of the cooking shows say to let the meat rest in it's juices to allow them to re-absorb, and be juicier. But you're saying that allowing the juices to run out makes them juicier?
 
  • #2,669
Evo said:
All of the cooking shows say to let the meat rest in it's juices to allow them to re-absorb, and be juicier. But you're saying that allowing the juices to run out makes them juicier?
If you watch Alton Brown's show on cooking steaks, he says to place them on an overturned bowl and cover them for a few minutes so that they are not sitting in their own juices. He's absolutely right about this one. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and them.

I am not trying to make the steaks juicier - just trying to make them more tender.

Brown's method of cooking a steak is to preheat a cast-iron skillet in the oven, put it on the stove-top on a hot burner, sear the steak on both sides, then pop the skillet and steak back into the oven to finish cooking inside, then relax the steak on an inverted dish before serving. My neighbor's method is better, and I use that when I can cook on the grill. Sear the steaks on both sides, immediately pop them into an air-tight container and let the residual heat continue to cook the steaks for 10-15 minutes or more.
 
  • #2,670
I slathered a rib roast with olive oil and coated it with just cracked pepper. Cooked it low and slow on the BBQ...and the last 30 minutes put on some red and green peppers then added some cherry wood, and let it smoke. It is to die for good.

Thin slices on medallions of French bread with the peppers and a dab of horseradish. Yummy!
 

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