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The discussion revolves around a vibrant exchange of food-related topics, with participants sharing favorite recipes, culinary experiences, and kitchen mishaps. A notable focus is on lentil recipes, with suggestions for dishes like chocolate lentil cake and lentil lasagna, as well as creative uses of lentils in various cuisines. Participants also share recipes for pasta with pesto, grilled shrimp marinades, and Indian dishes like dahl and gulab jamun. There’s a strong emphasis on improvisation in cooking, with many contributors discussing how they cook "by feel" rather than following strict measurements. The conversation also touches on cultural influences, such as the appreciation for Lebanese and South Indian cuisine, and the importance of traditional meals like the Indian sadya. Additionally, humorous anecdotes about kitchen disasters and the challenges of cooking techniques, like frying mozzarella sticks, add a lighthearted tone to the thread. Overall, the thread celebrates the joy of cooking and the communal sharing of food experiences.
  • #4,551
Jimmy Snyder said:
OK. My wife's back. She said that without the fat it won't taste as good. I said, in my best turbo voice, but then it will become slippery and unappetizing and we don't want all that grease in the broth. She said ok and told me to put the fat in the freezer so she can cook collards with it. Suits me. Collards are already slippery and unappetizing, what harm could a little more do? Then she said quarter the potatoes. I would have told her that the recipe said whole potatoes, but the recipe was not within striking distance. The potatoes have been quartered. She's cutting me some slack though. She said this is an experiment and if it doesn't work out it's ok.
My objection with a fatty piece of brisket (corned beef) is that if you simmer it with vegetables, you can skim some of the grease off the broth, but you can never get that fat out of the voids in the cabbage, and that overpowers the flavor of the cabbage, IMO. Of course, my opinion rules because I'm always RIGHT. :-p
 
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  • #4,552
Evo said:
Ok, we're both always right!
The plaintiff spoke in court and the judge said "You're right".
Then the defendant had his say and the judge said "You're right".
Then the bailif said, these two versions are opposite. How can they both be right?" and the judge said "You're right".
 
  • #4,553
I'm a methodical cook. Learned from my mother and grandmother, and it took years to figure out why they did things a certain way, although I'm sure that stuff when have flown over my head when I was in grade school.
 
  • #4,554
I made corned beef and cabbage last week, and i kept eating the cabbage, so every day I'd add another head of cabbage to the broth. I cooked 3 heads of cabbage that way.

If you make the corned beef early enough in the day, or even the night before, if you put the cooled down pot in the fridge, the fat will harden and you can easily pull the hardened fat right off. It also tastes better the next day.
 
  • #4,555
Evo said:
If you make the corned beef early enough in the day, or even the night before, if you put the cooled down pot in the fridge, the fat will harden and you can easily pull the hardened fat right off. It also tastes better the next day.
My wife and I do this with turkey and chickens, especially in cold weather. Once you have boiled down the carcass, strain out the bones and skin and set the broth out in a covered pan on top of one of the freezers (cool in the garage) and skim off the fat in the morning. Not so do-able when you want to be able to serve a non-greasy boiled dinner the day of preparation. I'd love to have a walk-in refrigerator in this place, but we barely have room for a walk-in bedroom.
 
  • #4,556
Put the broth in the fridge, then collect solidified fat from the surface. At least that's what Marzena does.

Funny thing is I made a goulash soup today, so we are eating beef as well.
 
  • #4,557
Thanks to Turbo and Evo, the meal came off well. My wife isn't used to western food and it turns out the reason she wanted this dish was because she heard about it on St. Patrick's Day and wanted to try it. She said that we can have it again next year on St. Patrick's Day, or sooner if I want it. That means she didn't like it all that much. Next time I will not get the packaged meat. But then where do I get the spice package?
 
  • #4,558
Jimmy Snyder said:
Thanks to Turbo and Evo, the meal came off well. My wife isn't used to western food and it turns out the reason she wanted this dish was because she heard about it on St. Patrick's Day and wanted to try it. She said that we can have it again next year on St. Patrick's Day, or sooner if I want it. That means she didn't like it all that much. Next time I will not get the packaged meat. But then where do I get the spice package?
I always buy the prepared corned beef. I can find you a recipe if you want to corn your own, but I don't know anyone that does, but maybe it will be fun. What brand did you buy? Quality and flavor vary greatly between companies.
 
  • #4,559
turbo said:
My wife and I don't get ground beef from supermarkets, but from a local butcher-shop. When ground beef is on sale, she'll buy a lot and we'll repackage it and put in in our chest freezers. These are very cold freezers, not self-defrosting compartments in a refrigerator/freezer combo, so that might make a difference. We don't have any problems with burger-patties falling apart during cooking.

Before the local butcher shop opened up, we did have problems with frozen or re-frozen, re-packaged beef falling apart and sometimes even had to resort to using eggs as a binder when making patties. I like my patties thick (and rare in the center) and that is very hard to achieve when your patties crack or break.

Interesting. One article said to add beef fat which grocery stores will give away, to your home ground beef so that you have a 50% mixture. Wonder if your meat market uses higher fat content? Cause fat is sticky?
 
  • #4,560
Corned beef and cabbage need to be cooked until the beef can be pulled apart like barbequed pork. The leftovers are great for sandwiches, seasoning collard greens and making corned beef hash.

Cook the cabbage until you like the texture. I also like it quite soft. You can also devil corned beef like ham for sandwiches or salad. The fat does improve the flavor and it's easy to skim off if there's enough water. If you don't want to chill it you can drag paper towels over the surface and then trash them to remove the fat.

I had very good corned beef and cabbage last week and it also had parsnips in it. Hadn't had them in ages.

Reminds me that I had a Cornish pastie a couple of weeks ago - one made WITH turnips. I usually make them without turnips myself. i can picture a shepherd on Cornwall headed off with the flocks with a couple of pasties in his pouch. So many items originated because there was no refrigeration and working people needed something portable, that would hold up and not spoil without refrigeration. Empanadas, tamales of many different types, pasties, stromboli too, all could be stuffed in a pouch for later consumption because they are sealed and sterilized during cooking so last a long time without being cooled.
 
  • #4,561
Evo said:
I always buy the prepared corned beef. I can find you a recipe if you want to corn your own, but I don't know anyone that does, but maybe it will be fun. What brand did you buy? Quality and flavor vary greatly between companies.
Wegmans. Turbo implied that I could get corned beef at a butcher's. I'll look around and see if that's so.
 
  • #4,562
netgypsy said:
Corned beef and cabbage need to be cooked until the beef can be pulled apart like barbequed pork.
When I was done, it was much more tender than the thin sliced corn beef I get when I order a rachel sandwich, but not as tender as my wife's bbq pork. We all like our veggies a little on the tough side, so I didn't cook them as long as the recipe said.
 
  • #4,563
Jimmy Snyder said:
When I was done, it was much more tender than the thin sliced corn beef I get when I order a rachel sandwich, but not as tender as my wife's bbq pork. We all like our veggies a little on the tough side, so I didn't cook them as long as the recipe said.
Good for you. My wife and I do the same. When making a boiled dinner (vegetables and a hunk of meat) we try to keep the vegetables al dente. Try this again, Jimmy, though using a cheap shoulder roast (chuck roast is my favorite). Once again, trim off excess fat, simmer the hell out of that roast (low-slow is the key if you want tender pull-apart meat) and add your potatoes, carrots, turnip, etc. Last add your onions and cabbage. You have just made a New England boiled dinner.

Initial steps (critical!) are to sear the roast in peanut oil (high smoke point) until it is browned on all sides, and then add red wine and water to the pot to lift the browning residue off the bottom of the pot. The vegetables will pick up that nice meaty flavor from the stock. You can't add flavor later, so you have to start off right.

Edit: I should add that for the original browning of the roasts, my mother and grandmother didn't have peanut oil, and they used a bit of lard (high smoke point) to brown the meat. Mom didn't always use lard, but would would sear some salt-pork in a pot before adding the roast. Lard could be an expense, but she could always send me down-cellar to spear a hunk of the salt pork out of the little wooden cask.

I'm not a master chef, but I learned how to cook from some people who were killers in the kitchen. I'd love to open a restaurant, but everybody that I know in that business has suffered from burn-out, alcoholism, and family problems. The stress in that business is incredible, and I have to give kudos to anybody who has initiated a restaurant start-up, and has still kept their personal life and family relations healthy.
 
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The restaurant business is like the horse business - to make a little money you have to start out with a lot of money.
 
  • #4,565
Yummy:

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10922289-urine-soaked-virgin-boy-eggs-are-a-springtime-taste-treat-in-china
 
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gravenewworld said:
Yummy:

http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/29/10922289-urine-soaked-virgin-boy-eggs-are-a-springtime-taste-treat-in-china

 
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  • #4,567
I wonder where the third bay leaf went?
 
  • #4,568
My neighbor wanted to borrow my car again, so she offered to bring me a cup of her vegetable soup. OK.

The *soup* was a tasteless, bland, watery cup of tomatoes, carrots, green beans and a few tiny noodles.

Evo to the rescue! I added some of my Knorr Caldo de Tomate Con Sabor de Pollo. It made it edible. Of course I will tell her how wonderful it was. :eek:
 
  • #4,569
Oh, that soup certainly needed more tomatoes and celery for sure. Furtermore lots of thyme and origanum, and for the yummy factor chicken or beef dice well done and smoked bell peppers.

The clan came for dinner this evening and Enrunwen decided it should be burritos. She grabbed the Canon while dinner was prepared.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22026080/burrittos.jpg
 
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  • #4,570
Looking good Andre!
 
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Tonight we had a simple dinner of steak, baked potatoes avec des trous, brussels sprouts yucca, and okra Winfrey.

1.66 lbs ribeye steak bone in
4 russet potatoes
some brussels sprouts
one yucca
some okra
hot peppers.

Pre-preheat the oven to 375 degrees.
Preheat the oven to 375 degrees.
Heat the oven to 375 degrees.
With a fork, poke a few holes in each end of the potatoes, wrap in foil and place in the oven for 1 hour.
Rub the steak with a little vegetable oil, salt, and pepper from a mill. Place on top a couple of sprigs of rosemary from the herb garden.
When the potatoes have been baking for 20 minutes, place the steak in the oven. After another 20 minutes turn it over. When the potatoes are done, the steak will be too.
Fry the okra with some hot peppers.
Boil the brussels sprouts with the yucca. Actually, I don't have any yucca so I just boiled the brussels sprouts.
 
  • #4,572
Did you sear the steaks before finishing in the oven?
 
  • #4,573
Andre said:
Oh, that soup certainly needed more tomatoes and celery for sure. Furtermore lots of thyme and origanum, and for the yummy factor chicken or beef dice well done and smoked bell peppers.

The clan came for dinner this evening and Enrunwen decided it should be burritos. She grabbed the Canon while dinner was prepared.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22026080/burrittos.jpg
Oh my. Save some for me Andre. And your photo is wonderful. :cool:
 
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  • #4,574
Jimmy,

What kind of hot peppers ?

Rhody...
 
  • #4,575
Evo said:
Did you sear the steaks before finishing in the oven?
No. I asked my wife about it and she said that just before the steak is ready I should turn the heat up high to finish it. Next time.

rhody said:
What kind of hot peppers ?
To taste. I used some hot pepper sauce in a jar that my wife got from the Chinese grocery. The name is in Chinese characters "Toward Heaven Chili". It's very hot but nothing like habaneros. It's packed with oil in it to fix the heat to your blood.
 
  • #4,576
Jimmy Snyder said:
No. I asked my wife about it and she said that just before the steak is ready I should turn the heat up high to finish it. Next time.
Sear the steaks first in a very hot skillet with salt and pepper, then finish the steaks in the oven. Searing helps keep the steaks nice and juicy. It really does matter. Searing after you have already dehydrated the steaks does no good. You really need to come up here and help me with planting season, and I will help you learn to be a decent cook.
 
  • #4,577
Searing is for taste, I have touted the maillard reaction for years. :biggrin:

Methods: Temper a steak by taking it out of the fridge and letting it sit at room temperature for about half an hour. Heat up a pan containing a thin layer of oil on the stove top. When the oil in the pan is smoking, place the steak in the pan. Make a note of all the changes that are occurring. Hear the sizzle of the meat in the oil. See the meat, where it touches the pan, start to change colors from deep red to gray to brown. But, most important, smell the new aromas emanating from the pan.

Are you hungry yet? I certainly am. A good sear can make a mediocre steak delightful. And a bad sear can render a good steak disappointing. A sear, in this case, doesn’t just give texture to your food. It creates new flavors. It creates new aromas. A good sear is the realization of an uncooked steak’s hidden potential.

All of this is a product of the Maillard reaction.

http://cen.acs.org/articles/89/i47/Maillard-Reaction.html
 
  • #4,578
All true. The browning (and subsequent lifting of those browned juices from the pan) are key to taking a cheap cut of beef to boiled-dinner perfection. Searing steaks is even more more critical, IMO, because you need to seal the outer surfaces to keep the juices in before final finishing.
 
  • #4,579
turbo said:
Searing steaks is even more more critical, IMO, because you need to seal the outer surfaces to keep the juices in before final finishing.

That's actually a myth, it doesn't seal the surface to keep in juices. It does reduce the total cooking time, making the end result more hydrated.
 
  • #4,580
Monique said:
That's actually a myth, it doesn't seal the surface to keep in juices. It does reduce the total cooking time, making the end result more hydrated.

Exactly, it's much better to slowly but thoroughly heat the steaks to some 30-35 oC ~(80-90F), using Maries bath with the steaks in a plastic bag. Then fry them short to the desired state and you'll be known as the incredible steak wizard.
 
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  • #4,581
I should point out that the final result was pretty good. The steak was medium rare with a pink center. So juicy that instead of cutting it into pieces, we poured it on the potatoes.
 
  • #4,582
Jimmy Snyder said:
I should point out that the final result was pretty good. The steak was medium rare with a pink center. So juicy that instead of cutting it into pieces, we poured it on the potatoes.
Sounds yummy, and that's what matters.

My mother would take a 1/2" steak and cook it for 45 minutes. It was like shoe leather, it made my jaw hurt trying to eat it. That's how she liked it. I never could figure out why people liked steak until I went to a steak house and got a properly cooked steak.
 
  • #4,583
Evo said:
My mother would take a 1/2" steak and cook it for 45 minutes. It was like shoe leather...
Just a guess, but I would be willing to bet that she got food poisoning one too many times and cooking it this way ensured that it never happened again.

Rhody...
 
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  • #4,584
Last night my wife put a small piece of leg of lamb in a marinade consisting of olive oil, salt, pepper from a mill, rosemary from the herb garden, and garlic. Tomorrow I'll roast it.
 
  • #4,585
Jimmy Snyder said:
Last night my wife put a small piece of leg of lamb in a marinade consisting of olive oil, salt, pepper from a mill, rosemary from the herb garden, and garlic. Tomorrow I'll roast it.
Oooohh!

Last night I was so tired, I ate cold salmon right out of the can.
 
  • #4,586
Roast leg of lamb, from mix.

1 piece of marinaded leg of lamb
brussels sprouts
broccoli
eggplant

Sear the lamb while heating the oven to 350.
Put the lamb in the oven with the potatoes left over from steak dinner a few nights ago.
Cut up the veggies.
When the center is 140F, take it out and let it rest for 10 minutes.
Start boiling the broccoli and brussels sprouts in a medley and fry the eggplant.

Serve with mint jelly and a cheap Argentine Malbec (what was I thinking?)
 
  • #4,587
Today was a day on the back deck with my father visiting. We had my hot/spicy marinated shrimp fresh off the grill, steamed clams with melted butter-and-vinegar dip, then pan-seared sea scallops in butter. We stretched all this out over 3+ hours with a pound of shrimp, 5 pounds of steamers, and a pound of scallops. Dessert was a Friendly's Thin Mint chocolate ice-cream cake.
 
  • #4,588
Japanese style Curry Rice. Warning: This recipe has absolutely nothing to do with curried rice.

Some medium grain white rice, the sticky kind.
Some stew meat
Some curry paste
Some potatoes
Some carrots
Some mushrooms
Some onions

Feeds: Some people.

I know brown rice is better for you, but trust me, it ruins this dish. You could use Basmati rice, but then it wouldn't be Japanese. We have a rice cooker. If you don't, just use 1 part water, 1 part rice and bring to a boil. When the water boils away, take it off the heat, put a lid on it and let it steam for 10 minutes.
Sear the meat cubes. If you don't want to sear them yourself, you can buy them ready made from Sears for pennies.
The 'curry paste' I'm using is called "Golden Curry" hot. Other brands are "House", and "Vermont".
Boil the stew meat, carrots, potatoes, and mushrooms. I don't put onions in myself, but I think most people do. If you do, I think it would be better to add them later or else they might melt. If you want them to melt, then go for it. Add the curry paste to make a thick sauce.
Lay a bed of rice on a dish and ladle the curry on it.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
Japanese style Curry Rice. Warning: This recipe has absolutely nothing to do with curried rice.

Some medium grain white rice, the sticky kind.
Some stew meat
Some curry paste
Some potatoes
Some carrots
Some mushrooms
Some onions

Feeds: Some people.

I know brown rice is better for you, but trust me, it ruins this dish. You could use Basmati rice, but then it wouldn't be Japanese. We have a rice cooker. If you don't, just use 1 part water, 1 part rice and bring to a boil. When the water boils away, take it off the heat, put a lid on it and let it steam for 10 minutes.
Sear the meat cubes. If you don't want to sear them yourself, you can buy them ready made from Sears for pennies.
The 'curry paste' I'm using is called "Golden Curry" hot. Other brands are "House", and "Vermont".
Boil the stew meat, carrots, potatoes, and mushrooms. I don't put onions in myself, but I think most people do. If you do, I think it would be better to add them later or else they might melt. If you want them to melt, then go for it.
That sounds good. I like my onions melted.

I have curry powder, I guess the paste is a lot different?
 
  • #4,590
I'm making corned beef and cabbage tonight. I had Evo Child buy an extra brisket when they were half price.

Pot of water, dump in corned brisket, add spice packet, cover, bring to boil, reduce to simmer. This is a small one, so 2 hours should do it. I gots cabbage to add, (I'm starting to talk like a lol cat) and maybe a couple of potatoes. I have horseradish sauce. This one has so much fat, I'll be lucky to have enough left for breakfast.
 
  • #4,591
I was lucky in that I cam from a family with a food intensive background. My father is a master sausage maker master butcher with his trade master degrees in the fields from Germany, so I had a delicious upbringing working in his store surrounded by wonderful meat. Unfortunately, it also has made me a snob and I can't stand to consume meat that isn't of the same quality standard - even other butcher shops sometimes can't match my expectations and too much of the food industry is often caught in some pseudo-scientific "healthisms" and various green-movement nonsense. Thus, I am often consigned to the fringes near, but not quite to, the culinary evil that is vegetarianism.

Regardless, it should be excusable if I'm somewhat biased to German food, however, having lived in around the world, my list won't be entirely dominated by German food. Just mostly. I love German food, but I think it doesn't have the recognition it deserves.

First, Schinkenspeck: beautiful. It is a dry-cured pork that, generally, has been smoked (meaning it is raw) having been seasoned with juniper berries. Don't believe the propaganda, if it lean with little fat, it is tough tasteless garbage. Schinkenspeck needs fat for flavour, and my father is still resentful having to make it so lean for the North American market as he thinks it is essentially ruined. Thus, for many of you, finding nice good quality schinkenspeck, should you try to find it, will be extremely difficult. Also, one can try raw smoked beef, its flavour is quite potent and sometimes overwhelming. Still, the best foods are those that are so flavourful as to be painful to eat.

Rouladen: I will simply describe how to make it. Thinly sliced outside round of beef, mix mustard (Löwensenf is a good standard mustard) with paprika and some cayenne pepper to give heat, and spread the mixture on one side of the meat slice. Next, after seasoning with salt and pepper, lay down some bacon on top and lay on the bacon sliced sour gurkin, but not the sweet crap, it must be sour (Hengstengberg is a good example, or Lisc), and red onion. Wrap, pierce with something to hold to together like a toothpick, brown in a pot, remove and add some water to begin a gravy base, return and finish cooking. Finally, complete the gravy and eat with some red cabbage or mashed potatoes.

Pork hoc: boil in water or beer, or saurkraut too, remove when done and enjoy. This is amongst my favourite meals. The meat is flavourful and succulent.

Nuernberger bratwurst: don't ask me about it, go find and eat some!

Ox tail: The key to good ox tail is simplicity. Boil it in water, and add salt, but don't do anything else and forget about side-dishes. This is a delight to eat by itself without distractions. The gooey melting fat and tender soft beef is something perhaps even hedonismbot would find overly excessive.

Roast Striploin: while delicious as a steak, frankly, if one was to have a roast, then one can really do no better than a striploin roast. It has all the benefits of the steak being of suitable tenderness and relatively high fat content in marble. But please, don't cut the fat of before roasting, do it after if you must.

Hainanese chicken rice: I grew up eating this, so its a personal favourite of mine. Basically, boil a chicken. Then cook some rice using the broth from the boiled chicken. Add sesame seed oil over the chicken, add to rice. Eat with chili and soy sauce.

The next two selections are somewhat harder to find: sri lankan soft-shelled crab and fish curry head. This is more of Indian and Chinese fusion, so I'm less familiar with it, but if you are ever in Singapore, you should try these two especially.

When I was in Colombia, I had some great soups in the Andean regions. Of particular note is changua, which I hated and think is an abomination. It's complete and wonderful opposite is ajiaco con pollo from Bogota (I think it's best with the chicken). It is a soup with chicken, cut corn on the cob, with little potatoes which break apart when cooked and thicken the soup, and a herb called guasca. It may be hard to replicate it closely unless one finds the appropriate potatoes, and guasca. It is usually served with cream and capers, though I myself prefer it plain and hate capers.

Sashimi: A friend of my father is a sushi chef, and used to spend several weeks in the summer time with him. If you can, find a Pacific coho salmon for sashimi, this is typically the best fish one can find for this purpose.

A desert: crepes with chocolate ice-cream filling (not the tub crap), chocolate sauce drizzling, powdered sugar with cinnamon, flambe in grand-marnier. Good traditional rice pudding with cinnamon-sugar is also great. As well, frozen-cheese cake is great, not every cheese cake has to be New York style.

Drink: Coca-Cola. It is the best drink, as objectively proven by Science! (Yes, I'm being facetious, but I do think it is a great drink and pairs excellently with everything I listed).

To try: many have yet to learn of white asparagus. Go now! Also, french fries, when made properly, can be amazing. It should be crisp, thin, but light and somewhat airy, and I think it goes better with mayonnaise than ketchup, but this is probably me exposing some of my culinary imperialism to the world (colonialism is good! It was what allowed me to eat Asian food with a fork!). Try roast beef that's pink inside, not everything needs to be cooked until flavourless. And try collecting some nice wild berries to eat if you have the opportunity. Bring a shotgun though, bears usually are not friendly. Those of you who tramp around in the wild without a gun are nuts (or live in an area that wiped out the predator population).

Finally, go out to your local friendly and professionally educated sausage fabricator and buy his delicious sausages. Don't buy that crap with nitrates that make everything taste oily, milk powder which makes the sausage brown faster but ruins its flavour, and is half filled with bread crumbs and water pumped for cost savings and added weight. Insist on real sausage! Make sure your local sausage maker has his Meisterpruefung before buying!

Also, of considerable importance: good company and good conversation. Eating is not merely some base hedonism, it is a cultural expression that is best shared with stimulating intellectual arguments. Great food and great conversation makes for a much better experience overall.
 
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Jimmy Snyder said:
just use 1 part water, 1 part rice and bring to a boil. When the water boils away, take it off the heat, put a lid on it and let it steam for 10 minutes.

Strange, I was taught by my Mom to use slightly over 2 volumes of water per volume of rice (sometimes more - depends on the rice variety). If there is less water rice is still hard inside.
 
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Borek said:
Strange, I was taught by my Mom to use slightly over 2 volumes of water per volume of rice (sometimes more - depends on the rice variety). If there is less water rice is still hard inside.
I use 1-3/4 of water (per volume) of rice and let the water and rice steam and settle while finishing.
 
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ingenvector said:
I was lucky in that I cam from a family with a food intensive background. My father is a master sausage maker master butcher with his trade master degrees in the fields from Germany, so I had a delicious upbringing working in his store surrounded by wonderful meat. Unfortunately, it also has made me a snob and I can't stand to consume meat that isn't of the same quality standard
Welcome fellow food snob. :-p

Don't believe the propaganda, if it lean with little fat, it is tough tasteless garbage. Schinkenspeck needs fat for flavour, and my father is still resentful having to make it so lean for the North American market as he thinks it is essentially ruined.
I had this discussion yesterday, I'm pro-fat for flavor. (be careful there are lean meat lovers here, but they are nice people). :smile:
 
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Ha ha! No problem, I won't be too polemical, though I do tend to have crazy radical ideas when it comes to food. Still, noblesse obliges, and I see it as my sacred responsibility to guide the kinder to see that there is only one correct way.

Alright, I'll be nice...
 
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Borek said:
Strange, I was taught by my Mom to use slightly over 2 volumes of water per volume of rice (sometimes more - depends on the rice variety). If there is less water rice is still hard inside.
I forgot to mention that you need to rinse the rice first. Japanese rice is shipped with talc that needs to be rinsed off. I usually rinse it 4 times before the water runs clear. By then the rice has already absorbed a small amount of water. The 1-1 ratio is correct. But after the water boils away it is crucial that you cover the pot and let it sit in its own steam for 10 minutes. Otherwise it will be too hard to eat.
 
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Evo said:
I have curry powder, I guess the paste is a lot different?
The paste makes a thick sauce. However, the taste is nothing like curry powder. It comes in cakes that look like large bullion cubes.
 
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Evo said:
Welcome fellow food snob. :-p

I had this discussion yesterday, I'm pro-fat for flavor. (be careful there are lean meat lovers here, but they are nice people). :smile:
Lean game meats taste fine. Elk, moose, bison, all taste very different than beef from domestic cattle, and wild boar tastes different than domestic pork.

I'll eat fat, particularly the gristle from a roast.
Evo said:
I'm making corned beef and cabbage tonight. I had Evo Child buy an extra brisket when they were half price.

Pot of water, dump in corned brisket, add spice packet, cover, bring to boil, reduce to simmer. This is a small one, so 2 hours should do it. I gots cabbage to add, (I'm starting to talk like a lol cat) and maybe a couple of potatoes. I have horseradish sauce. This one has so much fat, I'll be lucky to have enough left for breakfast.
That sounds wonderful.
 
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ingenvector said:
I was lucky in that I cam from a family with a food intensive background. My father is a master sausage maker master butcher with his trade master degrees in the fields from Germany, so I had a delicious upbringing working in his store surrounded by wonderful meat. Unfortunately, it also has made me a snob and I can't stand to consume meat that isn't of the same quality standard - even other butcher shops sometimes can't match my expectations and too much of the food industry is often caught in some pseudo-scientific "healthisms" and various green-movement nonsense. Thus, I am often consigned to the fringes near, but not quite to, the culinary evil that is vegetarianism.

Regardless, it should be excusable if I'm somewhat biased to German food, however, having lived in around the world, my list won't be entirely dominated by German food. Just mostly. I love German food, but I think it doesn't have the recognition it deserves.

First, Schinkenspeck: beautiful. It is a dry-cured pork that, generally, has been smoked (meaning it is raw) having been seasoned with juniper berries. Don't believe the propaganda, if it lean with little fat, it is tough tasteless garbage. Schinkenspeck needs fat for flavour, and my father is still resentful having to make it so lean for the North American market as he thinks it is essentially ruined. Thus, for many of you, finding nice good quality schinkenspeck, should you try to find it, will be extremely difficult. Also, one can try raw smoked beef, its flavour is quite potent and sometimes overwhelming. Still, the best foods are those that are so flavourful as to be painful to eat.

Rouladen: I will simply describe how to make it. Thinly sliced outside round of beef, mix mustard (Löwensenf is a good standard mustard) with paprika and some cayenne pepper to give heat, and spread the mixture on one side of the meat slice. Next, after seasoning with salt and pepper, lay down some bacon on top and lay on the bacon sliced sour gurkin, but not the sweet crap, it must be sour (Hengstengberg is a good example, or Lisc), and red onion. Wrap, pierce with something to hold to together like a toothpick, brown in a pot, remove and add some water to begin a gravy base, return and finish cooking. Finally, complete the gravy and eat with some red cabbage or mashed potatoes.

Pork hoc: boil in water or beer, or saurkraut too, remove when done and enjoy. This is amongst my favourite meals. The meat is flavourful and succulent.

Nuernberger bratwurst: don't ask me about it, go find and eat some!

Ox tail: The key to good ox tail is simplicity. Boil it in water, and add salt, but don't do anything else and forget about side-dishes. This is a delight to eat by itself without distractions. The gooey melting fat and tender soft beef is something perhaps even hedonismbot would find overly excessive.

Roast Striploin: while delicious as a steak, frankly, if one was to have a roast, then one can really do no better than a striploin roast. It has all the benefits of the steak being of suitable tenderness and relatively high fat content in marble. But please, don't cut the fat of before roasting, do it after if you must.

Hainanese chicken rice: I grew up eating this, so its a personal favourite of mine. Basically, boil a chicken. Then cook some rice using the broth from the boiled chicken. Add sesame seed oil over the chicken, add to rice. Eat with chili and soy sauce.

The next two selections are somewhat harder to find: sri lankan soft-shelled crab and fish curry head. This is more of Indian and Chinese fusion, so I'm less familiar with it, but if you are ever in Singapore, you should try these two especially.

When I was in Colombia, I had some great soups in the Andean regions. Of particular note is changua, which I hated and think is an abomination. It's complete and wonderful opposite is ajiaco con pollo from Bogota (I think it's best with the chicken). It is a soup with chicken, cut corn on the cob, with little potatoes which break apart when cooked and thicken the soup, and a herb called guasca. It may be hard to replicate it closely unless one finds the appropriate potatoes, and guasca. It is usually served with cream and capers, though I myself prefer it plain and hate capers.

Sashimi: A friend of my father is a sushi chef, and used to spend several weeks in the summer time with him. If you can, find a Pacific coho salmon for sashimi, this is typically the best fish one can find for this purpose.

A desert: crepes with chocolate ice-cream filling (not the tub crap), chocolate sauce drizzling, powdered sugar with cinnamon, flambe in grand-marnier. Good traditional rice pudding with cinnamon-sugar is also great. As well, frozen-cheese cake is great, not every cheese cake has to be New York style.

Drink: Coca-Cola. It is the best drink, as objectively proven by Science! (Yes, I'm being facetious, but I do think it is a great drink and pairs excellently with everything I listed).

To try: many have yet to learn of white asparagus. Go now! Also, french fries, when made properly, can be amazing. It should be crisp, thin, but light and somewhat airy, and I think it goes better with mayonnaise than ketchup, but this is probably me exposing some of my culinary imperialism to the world (colonialism is good! It was what allowed me to eat Asian food with a fork!). Try roast beef that's pink inside, not everything needs to be cooked until flavourless. And try collecting some nice wild berries to eat if you have the opportunity. Bring a shotgun though, bears usually are not friendly. Those of you who tramp around in the wild without a gun are nuts (or live in an area that wiped out the predator population).

Finally, go out to your local friendly and professionally educated sausage fabricator and buy his delicious sausages. Don't buy that crap with nitrates that make everything taste oily, milk powder which makes the sausage brown faster but ruins its flavour, and is half filled with bread crumbs and water pumped for cost savings and added weight. Insist on real sausage! Make sure your local sausage maker has his Meisterpruefung before buying!

Also, of considerable importance: good company and good conversation. Eating is not merely some base hedonism, it is a cultural expression that is best shared with stimulating intellectual arguments. Great food and great conversation makes for a much better experience overall.
I'm hungry for some good German food.

I believe it's now Spargel season in Germany.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spargel#White_asparagus_in_continental_northwestern_Europe
 
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Astronuc said:
Lean game meats taste fine. Elk, moose, bison, all taste very different than beef from domestic cattle, and wild boar tastes different than domestic pork.

I'll eat fat, particularly the gristle from a roast.
That sounds wonderful.

Barbecued beef fat...like the fat strip on a nice quality steak...aaaaaah :!)
 

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