What cause a phase shift between Ex and Ey of a polarized EM wave?

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The discussion centers on the causes of phase shifts between the Ex and Ey components of a polarized electromagnetic (EM) wave, particularly focusing on the angles of polarization and their implications. The scope includes theoretical aspects of EM wave polarization and its application in contexts like microwave and antenna technology.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the origin of different angles of polarization (γ) in EM waves, noting that linear polarization occurs at γ = 0 or π, while circular polarization occurs at γ = ± 45 degrees with equal amplitudes of Ex and Ey.
  • Another participant suggests that if the reference is set with the E wave in the x direction and the H wave in the y direction, there would be no Ey component, leading to a lack of polarization.
  • A reference to birefringence and anisotropy is made, implying a potential connection to the discussion of polarization.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in understanding the topic, indicating a preference for simpler explanations and a focus on microwave and antenna technology rather than optics.
  • There is a request for opinions on why waves traveling down a coaxial cable exhibit circular polarization.

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The discussion reflects a lack of consensus, with multiple competing views on the nature of polarization and the factors influencing phase shifts between Ex and Ey components. Participants express varying levels of understanding and interest in related topics.

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Some participants may have missing assumptions regarding the definitions of polarization angles and the conditions under which different types of polarization occur. The discussion also highlights a potential gap in knowledge about optics for those primarily focused on microwave applications.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in the theoretical aspects of electromagnetic wave polarization, particularly in the context of optics and microwave engineering.

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In EM wave polarization. Where is linear polarization where \gamma =0 or \pi . \gamma = +/- 45 deg and amplitude of Ex and Ey are equal to give circular polization etc.

My question is why there are different angle of \gamma on the first place? If you set the reference at x direction for E wave and y direction of H wave, you would never have polarization because there is no Ey component to speak of.

Thanks
 
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yungman said:
In EM wave polarization. Where is linear polarization where \gamma =0 or \pi . \gamma = +/- 45 deg and amplitude of Ex and Ey are equal to give circular polization etc.

My question is why there are different angle of \gamma on the first place? If you set the reference at x direction for E wave and y direction of H wave, you would never have polarization because there is no Ey component to speak of.

Thanks

Birefringence arising from anisotropy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birefringence

Eugene Hecht's Optics (probably on the third or fourth edition) is a standard optics textbook that covers this, and is probably available in your university's library.
 
Thanks, I was hoping I can get some simple answers...This is way over my head! !

I am studying mainly microwave and antenna. I do not even want to touch optics. If you have any opinion about electronics, I would love to hear it...Like why the wave travel down a coax is circulation polarization?

Thanks
 

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