What Conditions Must Be Met for a Transformation to Be Canonical?

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The discussion centers on the conditions necessary for a transformation between phase-space coordinates to be canonical, specifically focusing on the relationship between the Hamiltonian and the function K. It emphasizes that K must not depend on the derivatives of the new coordinates Q and P, as this ensures that the action remains stationary. The participants explore how the equations governing the transformation relate to the variational principle and the Hamiltonian mechanics framework. The conversation also touches on the implications of integrating the differential forms involved and how they relate to the stationary action principle. Ultimately, the discussion seeks to clarify the nature of K and its dependence on the phase-space variables.
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For which of the invertible transformations (\mathbf{q}, \mathbf{p}) \leftrightarrow(\mathbf{Q}, \mathbf{P})
\mathbf{Q}(\mathbf {q}, \mathbf {p}, t)
\mathbf{P}(\mathbf{q}, \mathbf {p}, t)
is it so that for every Hamiltonian \mathcal{H}(\mathbf {q}, \mathbf {p}, t) there is a \mathcal{K} such that
\dot{Q}_i = \frac{\partial\mathcal{K}}{\partial P_i} \;\;\;\;\;\;\;\; \dot{P}_i = -\frac{\partial\mathcal{K}}{\partial Q_i}\; ?
Stationary action should correspond, and that condition is met if

\sum p_i\dot{q}_i - \mathcal{H} = \sum P_i\dot{Q}_i - \mathcal{K} + \frac{dF}{dt},

since integrating \frac{dF}{dt} results in something only dependent of the endpoints.

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Consider this part of Goldstein's Classical Mechanics.

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rearranging 9.13 to make this clear:

\mathcal{K} = \mathcal{H} + \frac{\partial F_1}{\partial t} + \sum_i \dot{Q}_i\left(P_i - \frac{\partial F_1}{\partial Q_i} \right) + \sum_i \dot{q}_i\left(\frac{\partial F_1}{\partial q_i} - p_i\right)
I guess I might like this explained a more. Why aren't we able to to have the coefficients of \dot{q}_i or \dot{Q}_i be non-zero, and have the difference absorbed into \mathcal{K} ?
 
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it's because K should not depend on the derivates of Q and q
 
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I would argue as follows. The Hamiltonian version of the action is
S[x,p]=\int_{t_1}^{t_2} \mathrm{d} t [\dot{q}^k p_k - H(t,q,p)].
The trajectory in phase space is determined as the stationary point of this functional with the boundary values q(t_1) and q(t_2) fixed.

Now if you want to determine new phase-space coordinates (Q,P) that describe the same system in the new coordinates by the variational principle, i.e., such that the phase-space trajectories are described by the Hamilton canonical equations, you must have
\mathrm{d} q^k p_k - \mathrm{d} Q^k P_k - \mathrm{d} t (H-K)=\mathrm{d} f.
From this it is clear that the "natural" independent variables for f are q, Q, and t. Then comparing the differential on each side leads to
p_k=\frac{\partial f}{\partial q^k}, \quad P_k=-\frac{\partial f}{\partial Q^k}, \quad K=H+\frac{\partial f}{\partial t}.
Then you can go over to other pairs of old and new independent phase-space variables in the "generator" using appropriate Legendre transformations.
 
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For which of the invertible transformations (q,p)↔(Q,P)
Q(q,p,t)
P(q,p,t)
is it so that for every Hamiltonian H(q,p,t) there is a K such that
Q˙i=∂K∂PiP˙i=−∂K∂Qi?Is It show that K is dependent upon (P, Q) not in Derivative of (P, Q)? please.

also show that
Q˙i=∂K∂PiP˙i=−∂K∂Qi?
 
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