What Defines a One-Form in Multivariable Calculus and Differential Geometry?

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter pellman
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Definition
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the definition and characteristics of one-forms in the context of multivariable calculus and differential geometry. Participants explore whether the components of a one-form must be those of a type (0,1) tensor, particularly in relation to connection one-forms and their properties.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that a one-form can be expressed as ω = ωₘ dxᵐ, questioning if the components ωₘ must be of type (0,1) tensor, citing the connection one-form as an example where the components are not tensor components.
  • Another participant proposes that any mapping from the tangent bundle TM to another vector bundle E can be considered a one-form, suggesting that the usual one-forms map tangent vectors to scalar fields.
  • A different participant expresses confusion regarding the necessity of the components ωₘ being of type (0,1) tensor, indicating that the elements of T*M may be identical to (0,1) tensors.
  • One participant challenges the classification of connection one-forms, noting that they have two indices and questioning their status as one-forms, suggesting they may represent a different type of tensor.
  • Another participant suggests that the term "one-form" may be used loosely in some contexts, pointing out that while connection forms are linear in one-form basis elements, the coefficients may not correspond to (0,1) tensor components.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the components of a one-form must be of type (0,1) tensor. There is no consensus on the strictness of the definition of a one-form, particularly in relation to connection one-forms.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential ambiguities in the definitions and classifications of one-forms and connection one-forms, noting that sources may vary in their strictness regarding these terms.

pellman
Messages
683
Reaction score
6
A one-form is something of the form

\omega=\omega_\mu dx^\mu

But is it necessary that the components \omega_\mu be components of a type (0,1) tensor?

For instance, the connection one-form is defined to be

{\omega^{\alpha}}_\beta = {\Gamma^\alpha}_{\gamma\beta} \hat{\theta}^\gamma

where \hat{\theta}^\gamma is a basis of the dual tangent space, though not necessarily a coordinate basis. Here the components {\Gamma^\alpha}_{\gamma\beta}--the connection coefficients, i.e., Christoffel symbols-- not only are not those of a type (0,1) tensor, they are not even those of a tensor.

So is this legitimately a one-form?
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
I think with any vector bundle E over your manifold M, it's fair to call any (bundle) mapping TM-->E a "one-form". (i.e. a function that takes tangent vectors and maps them to E-vectors)

For the usual one-forms, E is just the trivial line bundle MxR-->M -- that is, the one in which scalar fields live. Each (usual) one-form takes a tangent vector field on M and maps it to a scalar field on M. T*M is the bundle in which all such one-forms live.
 
Thank you, Hurkyl. I'm getting there, I really am. But I am in chap 7 of Nakahara's Geometry, Topology, and Physics and fibre bundles and such are in chap 9. I think you are saying that the answer to "is it necessary that the components \omega_\mu be components of a type (0,1) tensor? " is "No". Is that right?

Each (usual) one-form takes a tangent vector field on M and maps it to a scalar field on M. T*M is the bundle in which all such one-forms live

Then again, maybe this means "Yes, it is necessary"? The elements of T*M are identical with the (0,1) tensors, aren't they?
 
pellman said:
(...)
For instance, the connection one-form is defined to be

{\omega^{\alpha}}_\beta = {\Gamma^\alpha}_{\gamma\beta} \hat{\theta}^\gamma
(...)

I heared "connection one-form" but i see 2 components "two indices" ! {{\omega^{\alpha}}_\beta}'s are not one-forms and are not expressed in the natural basis (dx) they are the components of a 1-1 tensor and a form has never been a 1-1 tensor ! I think :biggrin:
 
I think maybe it is just sloppy use of the term "one-form". Though I think it is standard. The wikipedia entry just calls it "connection form" instead of "connection one form" But it is linear in the one-form basis elements \hat{\theta}^\alpha. It is not a k-form where k>1.

On the other hand, maybe any linear combination of the \hat{\theta}^\alpha is a one form, even though the coefficients are the not components of a (0,1) tensor. I'm not able to glean how strict the definition of a one-form is from the sources I have checked.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 36 ·
2
Replies
36
Views
6K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
6K
  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
6K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
6K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
3K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K