What Defines True Genius Beyond IQ Tests?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "genius" and what defines it beyond traditional metrics such as IQ tests. Participants explore various aspects of human cognitive function, including biological, chemical, medical, and social influences that may contribute to what is considered genius. The scope includes theoretical and conceptual considerations rather than practical applications or definitive conclusions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that genius could manifest in various forms, such as exceptional musical or artistic abilities, or the capacity to solve complex problems in business.
  • Others emphasize the need to define genius without reference to IQ tests or specific groups, focusing instead on innate cognitive abilities and their manifestations.
  • A participant references a quote about genius that implies actions define genius rather than inherent traits.
  • There are mentions of savantism being excluded from the discussion, as it is considered outside the normative human condition.
  • One participant shares a historical perspective from Georg Christoph Lichtenberg, noting that great geniuses often question prevailing norms and think independently.
  • Another participant humorously suggests that practical footwear could be a sign of genius, reflecting a light-hearted take on the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definition of genius, with no consensus reached. Some agree on the need to avoid traditional metrics like IQ, while others question the boundaries of what constitutes genius. The discussion remains open-ended and exploratory.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in defining genius, including the exclusion of certain talents and the reliance on subjective interpretations of cognitive abilities. There is also an emphasis on avoiding stereotypes and preconceived notions about genius.

  • #31
Of course, there is this...

January 18, 2000


Among the Inept, Researchers Discover,
Ignorance Is Bliss

By ERICA GOODE

There are many incompetent people in the world. Dr. David A.
Dunning is haunted by the fear he might be one of them.
Dr. Dunning, a professor of psychology at Cornell, worries about this
because, according to his research, most incompetent people do not
know that they are incompetent.
On the contrary. People who do things badly, Dr. Dunning has found in
studies conducted with a graduate student, Justin Kruger, are usually
supremely confident of their abilities -- more confident, in fact, than
people who do things well.

continued...

http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/science/health/011800hth-behavior-incompetents.html
 
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  • #32
Evo said:
:smile:
:smile: I'm so glad I don't drink Bud or Bud Light. :biggrin: I'm strickly microbrews or imports. :approve:
 
  • #33
OmCheeto said:
Yes there is. Why else would it be in the dictionary?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/unicorn

OmCheeto said:
We have funny eyes.

Now you're just being silly.

OmCheeto said:
P=IE!
I have lots of E.

There is no physical test one can do on the brain to determine with any accuracy whether one will be considered a genius by society.

OmCheeto said:
Actually, I've never worked very hard at anything.
That's one way to spot us. We never seem to try hard at anything.
Check out that lame-o Chris Lalawhatever. He's a bouncer.

Einstein worked tremendously hard. Edison is quoted as saying, "Genius is one per cent inspiration, ninety-nine per cent perspiration."

OmCheeto said:
hmm...

I think everyone should strive for genius. It's very a very zen thing in my book. The world needs more zen.

If "striving to be a genius" involves this:
OmCheeto said:
Actually, I've never worked very hard at anything.
That's one way to spot us. We never seem to try hard at anything.
then I'd argue we shouldn't encourage people to strive to be geniuses.
 

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