What Determines Surface Charge Density Inside a Cavity: A or B?

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The discussion revolves around determining the surface charge density on the inner surface of a cavity within a conductor, specifically comparing two locations labeled 'A' and 'B'. The context includes theoretical considerations of electrostatics and the behavior of electric fields in relation to charge distribution.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant argues that the surface charge density at location A will be greater than at B due to the sharper curvature at A, suggesting that the system minimizes energy.
  • Another participant counters this by stating that location B has the higher surface charge density, claiming that the curvature is negative for the geometry in question.
  • A third participant supports the idea that location B has a higher surface charge density, explaining that the electric field must be stronger at B because the conductor maintains a constant potential, leading to equal line integrals of the electric field from the charge to both locations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding which location has the higher surface charge density, with competing views on the influence of curvature and electric field strength.

Contextual Notes

The discussion involves assumptions about the geometry of the conductor and the behavior of electric fields, which may not be fully resolved. The relationship between curvature and charge density is a point of contention.

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Individuals interested in electrostatics, charge distribution, and the behavior of conductors in electric fields may find this discussion relevant.

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The figure shows a cuboidal shaped conductor inside which there is an ellipsoidal cavity. The center of the cavity is at the center of the cuboid.

Link to figure: http://www.picscrazy.com/view/1qtB9

A charge qo is kept at the center of the cavity. I am showing two positions 'A' and 'B'. MY question is in which location, among 'A' and 'B', (on the inner surface of cavity) the surface charge density will be more. At 'A' or at 'B'.

I have two arguments to present:
(i) The system will try to minimize its energy - so, in that case the surface charge density at B will be less than surface charge density at A. Or to say in other words, since the radius of curvature at B is more, so the charge at B will be less. A is sharper than B so charge density at A will be more.
(ii) now charge qo is closer to B than A. So shouldn't i conclude that charge density at B will be more than charge density at A. Since charge qo is closer to B, so electric field lines will be more dense near B, so the charge density at B will be more.

I m not sure which of the arguments is correct. And why? can anyone help me in this. ??
 
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B has the higher surface charge density.
Your argument (i) is wrong because the curvature wrt the conductor is actually negative for this geometry.
For a charge outside a conducting ellipsoid, the SCD would be greater at the end.
 
(ii) is correct. More rigorously, the conductor will be at a constant potential, and so the line integrals of the electric field from q0 to B and from q0 to A must be the same. Therefore, the magnitude of the field at B must be higher than A.
 
wow, sometimes the explanations are so simple, but yet so tough to think
thanx to both of you
 

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