What Determines the Direction of Motion in a Plank and Spring System?

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The discussion revolves around a plank and spring system, focusing on the conditions that determine the direction of motion of a mass attached to the system. Participants explore the implications of initial velocity and the interactions between the mass and the plank.

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  • Participants question the conditions under which the mass can reverse direction, particularly regarding the initial velocity and its implications. There are discussions about the relationship between the velocities of the mass and the plank, and how forces such as friction and spring elasticity affect motion.

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The conversation is active, with participants sharing insights and clarifying their understanding of the system's dynamics. Some have provided guidance on the interactions between the mass and the plank, while others are still exploring different interpretations of the problem.

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There is an ongoing examination of the initial conditions and assumptions about the velocities involved, as well as the effects of forces acting on the mass and plank system.

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A block of mass m is placed on a plank of mass M that rests on a frictionless floor. The block is connected to an obstruction on the plank with the help of a light spring of stiffness k as shown in the figure . Coefficient of friction between the plank and the block is μ. Initially when the spring is relaxed , the block is given a velocity Vo towards the obstruction . If the block stops on the plank before reversing its direction of motion relative to the plank , find the velocity Vo . Acceleration due to gravity is g.
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Momentum conservation
Work - Energy theorem (?)
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I don't understand the question. If it want the mass to stop and reverse its direction, then does that not means ##vo## can be anything? (obviously not 0 since it will make the system not moving at all).
 
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Rikudo said:
If it want the mass to stop and reverse its direction, then does that not means ##vo## can be anything?
Could there be some range of velocities for which it does not reverse direction?
 
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Consider that initial velocity Vo is measured respect to both, the plank and the floor.
By the time the block stops respect to the plank ("the block stops on the plank before reversing its direction of motion"), the plank has acquired certain velocity respect to the floor; therefore, its velocity respect to the floor must match that certain plank's velocity.
 
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When they are in motion, the mass's speed will decrease while the plank's will increase. Eventually, they will have the same speed (which means at this instant, the mass is not moving with respect to the plank). No matter what Vo is, they will undergo this event.
 
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Rikudo said:
No matter what Vo is, they will undergo this event.
That is for the event that the block comes to rest relative to the plank. I asked about the event that the block subsequently moves in the other direction relative to the plank.
 
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Consider as well that the sliding block has two simultaneous ways to transfer part of its initial KE to the plank: constant force of friction and variable elastic force of the spring, both reducing its velocity.
 
Now I understand. Thank you, all of you!
 
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