What Determines the Shape of a Quadratic Equation's Graph?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the different shapes that can be represented by a quadratic equation in two variables, specifically the conditions under which these shapes occur. Participants explore the classification of conic sections, including parabolas, ellipses, hyperbolas, and degenerate cases, as well as methods to determine the nature of the graph from the equation.

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  • One participant notes that the quadratic equation can yield various shapes, including parabolas, ellipses, hyperbolas, and degenerate cases like lines or points, and seeks a method to determine which shape results from a given equation.
  • Another participant suggests writing the equation in matrix form and analyzing the properties of the coefficient matrix to understand the conic section represented.
  • A different participant provides a matrix representation of the coefficients and outlines conditions based on the determinant and the discriminant (b² - 4ac) to classify the conic sections, mentioning specific cases for ellipses, parabolas, hyperbolas, and circles.
  • There is a request for further clarification or hints from one participant who is struggling to grasp the explanation provided.

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Participants present various methods and conditions for determining the shape of the quadratic equation's graph, but there is no consensus on a single approach or method. Some participants focus on matrix representation while others emphasize the discriminant.

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Participants mention specific cases and conditions for different conic sections, but the discussion does not resolve the complexities involved in degenerate cases or the nuances of applying these methods.

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the set of points described by the quadratic equation

a y^2 + b xy + c x^2 + d y + e x + f = 0

can be 1) a parabola, an ellipse, an hyperbola or 2) an empty set, a line, two intersecting lines, two parallel lines, a circle, a point, and pherhaps something else...

I want two know which of these will I get.

I know the rule b^2-4ac. but the degenerate cases deceive me too often. Is there a method to decide which set the quadratic equation describes? Of course you can try completing squares in several ways, but that takes lots of trials and thought, doesn't it? is there a better way?

thanks!
 
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Start by writing the equation in matrix form as

[tex]\begin{bmatrix}x & y & 1 \end{bmatrix}<br /> \begin{bmatrix}a & h & g \cr h & b & f \cr g & f & c \end{bmatrix}<br /> \begin{bmatrix}x \cr y \cr 1\end{bmatrix} <br /> = 0[/tex]

(When you multipliy it out, the coefficients are in a different order from your notation, but this is the "standard" form).

Then consider the properties of the matrix of coefficients.

(It's more fun to work out the details for yourself than just be told the answer!)

BTW, when I was a kid we were taught to remember the matrix entries by "all hairy gorillas have big feet, good for climbing" :smile:
 
I don't get it yet... some further hint?
 
I learned that you put the coefficients in a matrix of
[a b/2 d/2]
[b/2 c e/2]
[d/2 e/2 f]
if the determinant of the matrix is 0, it is degenerate

if b^2>4ac it is a ellipse or a point
if b^2=4ac it is a parabola or a line
if b^2<4ac it is a hyperbola or two lines
if b=0 and a=c, then it is a circle or a point (special case of ellipse)

the determinant is calculated from a general matrix

[a b c]
[d e f]
[g h i]

using the formula aei + bfg + cdh - ceg - bdi - afh
 
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