What Distribution Does X_1 Follow in a Divided Interval Probability Problem?

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The discussion revolves around a probability problem involving an interval [0,1] that is divided into k equally sized subintervals, with n observations generated within this interval. The participants are exploring the distribution of the number of observations falling into a specific subinterval, denoted as X_1, and subsequently defining Y_i as the proportion of observations in that interval.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to identify the distribution of X_1, with some suggesting it might be normal while others question this assumption based on the discrete nature of the observations. There is a discussion about the implications of using a uniform distribution for generating points in the interval and how that affects the distribution of X_1. Additionally, there are inquiries about the expected value and variance of Y_i, alongside attempts to derive these values.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections regarding the assumptions about the distribution of X_1. Some have clarified the use of a uniform distribution for generating points, while others are exploring the implications of this choice on the distribution of observations in the subintervals. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the dialogue is guiding participants toward a clearer understanding of the problem.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the discrete nature of X_i and the implications of using a uniform distribution for the observations. There is also an emphasis on not providing direct answers, in line with the homework assignment's guidelines.

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Homework Statement



We have an interval [0,1], which we divide into k equally sized subintervals and generate n observations. Let's call the number of observations which falls into interval k_i, X_i. What distribution does X_1 have?

Now we define Y_i=X_i/n. Derive the Expected value, variance and standard deviation for Y_i?

This is a homework assignment, so please just guide me... don't give me the answers :)

Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution



The distribution for X_1: The amount of observations in each interval should follow a normal distribution, no? But the number of observations in each interval will be discrete? If I could understand what distr. this is, I could solve for E(X_i^2) in the last expression?


X_i=# of n that is in k_i. So, E(X_i)=n/k.
E(Y_i)=E(X_i/n)=(1/n)(E(X_i))=1/k
V(Y_i)=E((Y_i)^2)-(E(Y_i))^2=E((X_i/n)^2)-(1/k)^2=(1/n)^2*E(X_i^2)-1/k^2 ?
 
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nickthegreek said:

Homework Statement



We have an interval [0,1], which we divide into k equally sized subintervals and generate n observations. Let's call the number of observations which falls into interval k_i, X_i. What distribution does X_1 have?

Now we define Y_i=X_i/n. Derive the Expected value, variance and standard deviation for Y_i?

This is a homework assignment, so please just guide me... don't give me the answers :)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



The distribution for X_1: The amount of observations in each interval should follow a normal distribution, no? But the number of observations in each interval will be discrete? If I could understand what distr. this is, I could solve for E(X_i^2) in the last expression?X_i=# of n that is in k_i. So, E(X_i)=n/k.
E(Y_i)=E(X_i/n)=(1/n)(E(X_i))=1/k
V(Y_i)=E((Y_i)^2)-(E(Y_i))^2=E((X_i/n)^2)-(1/k)^2=(1/n)^2*E(X_i^2)-1/k^2 ?

How do you pick a random point in [0,1]? Do you use a uniform distribution? If so, then NO, the distribution of X_1 is not normal. In fact, for ANY distribution on [0,1], the distribution of X_1 is not normal: the normal distribution goes from -∞ to +∞, but the distribution of X_1 only goes from 0 to n. Of course the number of points in each interval will be discrete; after all, you just pick an integer number n of points altogether, and the number falling into an interval will be some integer from 0 to n.

To understand what is the distribution of X_1, you first need to say what is the distribution of the random points on [0,1]. If it IS the uniform distribution, draw a diagram of its density function f(x), and remember what "density" means (or look it up in a book or a web page).
 
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Hi Ray, thanks for your answer.

You are correct, I forgot the "small" little detail that we generated it from a uniform distribution. I think/thought I knew what a density function is, and that the probability function for a uniform distribution is 1/(b-a+1). I can't udnerstand what the distribution for X_1 will be tho. Let's say we generate 100 numbers in [0,1] and create 10 subintervals with a uniform distr. Our E(X_i)=10, so for i=1,...,10 we will have a rectangular shaped diagram, the usual uniform one. If I picture a diagram, with X_1 on the Y-axis and the x-axis goes from [0,1/10], so it will only vary discretly in the y-axis around 10. This will make it a discretly uniform distr.?

excuse my english, I don't know some of the terms in english.
 
nickthegreek said:
Hi Ray, thanks for your answer.

You are correct, I forgot the "small" little detail that we generated it from a uniform distribution. I think/thought I knew what a density function is, and that the probability function for a uniform distribution is 1/(b-a+1). I can't udnerstand what the distribution for X_1 will be tho. Let's say we generate 100 numbers in [0,1] and create 10 subintervals with a uniform distr. Our E(X_i)=10, so for i=1,...,10 we will have a rectangular shaped diagram, the usual uniform one. If I picture a diagram, with X_1 on the Y-axis and the x-axis goes from [0,1/10], so it will only vary discretly in the y-axis around 10. This will make it a discretly uniform distr.?

excuse my english, I don't know some of the terms in english.

What is the probability that the first generated point lies in the interval [0,1/10]? What is the probability that the second generated point lies in the interval [0,1/10]? Just continue like that.
 
(1/10)^n?
 

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