What do you think about this statement I made up?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between intelligence, passion, and curiosity, particularly in the context of personal development and career choices. Participants explore the implications of these traits in various fields, including philosophy and science, while also addressing the challenges faced by individuals pursuing these interests.

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  • One participant expresses concern about being perceived as overly intelligent and seeks constructive criticism on their thoughts about intelligence and passion.
  • Another participant agrees that while intelligence is important, passion and curiosity can lead to greater success than intelligence alone.
  • Some participants suggest that intelligence may be less relevant than drive and attitude when it comes to achieving success.
  • There is a discussion about the limited job opportunities associated with a philosophy degree, with some participants noting that teaching and writing are common paths.
  • One participant mentions that philosophy is a popular major for those intending to attend law school.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of passion and curiosity alongside intelligence, but there are varying opinions on the strength of the relationship between these traits and success. The discussion about job prospects in philosophy reveals differing views on the field's viability.

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Participants express uncertainty about the job market for philosophy graduates and the implications of pursuing interests in fields like psychology and linguistics. There are also references to personal experiences that influence their perspectives.

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Please don't flame me on this. Don't get me wrong, I'm a very analyitcal person, just like you guys, but everytime I post something people tend to think I said I'm some super genius or something and be sarcastic with me. There are a lot of helpful people but please, constructive critism only. Is this really that hard? You can poke flaws etc and say I'm stupid and whatever, but at least make it constructive, I'm 17, at least I'm compassion about a lot of things, and have a strong curiosity for a lot most teenagers aren't this way. (Generally, at least none that I know of)

I'm very interested in philopshy. I wanted to study japanese and lingquistics, but I'm too afraid I'm only interested in video games to go there, which I'm sure I will get tired of if I don't get a good job. Its almost unheard of in japan, where discrimation is pretty bad for foreginers, unless you teach english.


What job can you get with philopshy? I like psychology but don't want to be a pscyhitrits or therapist etc, (please excuse my typing errors, its 1:33 AM and I'm tired). Likewise with philosophy. My grandpa had a degree in it but he's a christian preacher. I don't want to be a preacher

Ok here's a quote that I made up, I think its accurate:
One may have intelliience; but without passion and curiousity, it is useless.

I was interested in putting it in my signature for the playstation forums, but wanted to come here and get your opinion first. It seems correct to me. If you have really good emotional intelligence or believe in multiple intelligences etc it may help but my point is if you don't have an interest to learn anything and are really intelligent then its kinda beside the point? Of course you're gifted but when youre intelligent doesn't it mean you have a capacity to learn more, and retain more of it? But if you're don't want to learn anything, take anyones advice, or are not interestd or passionate, interestd in anything its a moot point

Simiarily,

If you're just an average or below average IQ (I have an iq of like 100) and you have a huge passion and interest in something, with a lot of work, you can learn a lot and be just better than the person who is intelligent but doesn't have passion for some stuff because of a passion or curiosity to learn about the most basic things.

IMHO, this is what separates scientists from your average fast food worker. Scientist have a great passion to learn, right? They also advance technology.

NOTE: I wanted to add this. I'm not saying that a fast food person doesn't have passion or doesn't study on this stuff, I'm just saying scientist generally (in their profession) want to learn study etc and that's probably why they wanted to be a scientist..


So call me stupid or whatever, I'm not very smart, but at least I have an interest (Just like you guys) in the most basic quesitons and i Love to learn and study about it.


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QuantumTheory said:
One may have intelliience; but without passion and curiousity, it is useless.
Simiarily,
If you're just an average or below average IQ (I have an iq of like 100) and you have a huge passion and interest in something, with a lot of work, you can learn a lot and be just better than the person who is intelligent but doesn't have passion for some stuff because of a passion or curiosity to learn about the most basic things.
Certainly true. Intelligence is merely a measure of potential to solve problems. Passion, curiosity and hard work can outstrip intelligence alone.
 
QuantumTheory said:
One may have intelliience; but without passion and curiousity, it is useless.
"Useless" is a bit strong but I get the idea. I would instead say that intelligence is the second most relevant factor to success after drive. Or I might use the old saying: it's not your aptitudes but your attitude that determines your altitude. And no, you're not stupid at all to believe this.
 
Orefa said:
"Useless" is a bit strong but I get the idea. I would instead say that intelligence is the second most relevant factor to success after drive. Or I might use the old saying: it's not your aptitudes but your attitude that determines your altitude. And no, you're not stupid at all to believe this.


Thanks for both of you for a reasonable and constructive critism post.

I made a thread earlier on whether playing by ear (Not full orchastras, just the white keys, most any song) was a talent, people relentlessly flamed me and said everyone could do it. They then say it as a joke, but it wasn't.
 
Philosophy- Its a pretty big thing at my school (Jesuit Institution) but I can't see any jobs other than teaching, preaching, priesthood, writer, etc. Philosophy is kinda known for its lack of job opportunities.
 
Philosophy is a popular major for those planning on going to lawschool.
 

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