What does 2n on top of the summation expression do diferently than just n?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the summation expression with an upper limit of 2n, specifically examining how it differs from a summation with an upper limit of n. Participants are exploring the implications of changing the upper limit in the context of summing integers.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to express the summation of integers from 1 to 2n and relate it to known formulas for summation. There are questions about whether similar reasoning applies to other upper limits, such as 2n+1.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the relationship between the summation formulas and have confirmed that substitution can be applied to derive results for different upper limits. Multiple interpretations of the summation's behavior are being explored, but there is no explicit consensus on the broader implications.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the standard formula for the sum of the first N integers applies, and they are testing its validity for different values of N. There is a sense of uncertainty regarding the implications of these substitutions.

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Homework Statement



2n
Ʃ (k)
k=1

The Attempt at a Solution



2n
Ʃ (k) = 2n(2n+1)/2 (This is just a shot in the dark.)
k=1
 
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student34 said:

Homework Statement



2n
Ʃ (k)
k=1

The Attempt at a Solution



2n
Ʃ (k) = 2n(2n+1)/2 (This is just a shot in the dark.)
k=1

Sure. If you've shown the sum from 1 to n of k is n*(n+1)/2, then the sum to 2n is just 2n*(2n+1)/2. It's just substitution.
 
Dick said:
Sure. If you've shown the sum from 1 to n of k is n*(n+1)/2, then the sum to 2n is just 2n*(2n+1)/2. It's just substitution.

So would this work too?

2n+1
Ʃ (k) = (2n+1)((2n+1)+1)/2
k=1
 
student34 said:
So would this work too?

2n+1
Ʃ (k) = (2n+1)((2n+1)+1)/2
k=1

Sure. Same thing.
 
student34 said:

Homework Statement



2n
Ʃ (k)
k=1

The Attempt at a Solution



2n
Ʃ (k) = 2n(2n+1)/2 (This is just a shot in the dark.)
k=1

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^N k = \frac{N(N+1)}{2},[/tex]
so if you put N = 2n you get the stated result. If you set N = 2n+1 you get the other result you stated.

RGV
 

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