What Does About x = 3 Mean in Volume Calculation?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of a solid formed by rotating the region bounded by the curves \(x = y^2\) and \(x = 1 - y^2\) about the line \(x = 3\). Participants explore the meaning of "about \(x = 3\)" and work through the integration process involved in finding the volume.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about the meaning of "about \(x = 3\)" in the context of the volume calculation.
  • Another participant suggests that the outer radius of the washer is the distance from \(x = 3\) to the curve \(x = y^2\), while the inner radius is the distance from \(x = 3\) to the curve \(x = 1 - y^2\).
  • Several participants propose integrals to represent the volume, with variations in the formulation and limits of integration.
  • There are corrections regarding the algebraic manipulation of the integrands, with one participant noting missing brackets and algebra mistakes in earlier posts.
  • One participant expresses relief after resolving issues with signs in their calculations, indicating the complexity of the problem.
  • A later reply confirms the correctness of a participant's volume calculation, providing a detailed breakdown of the steps involved.

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While there is some agreement on the general approach to the volume calculation, multiple competing views and corrections exist regarding the specifics of the integrals and algebraic steps. The discussion remains unresolved in terms of a definitive solution, as participants continue to refine their calculations.

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Participants note potential algebraic mistakes and clarify the importance of correct limits and integrands in the volume calculation. There is a focus on ensuring proper handling of signs and terms in the integrals.

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Find the Volume of a Solid by rotating the region bounded by the given curves about the specified line. Sketch the region, the solid, and a typical disk or washer.

$$x = y^2$$, $$x = 1 - y^2$$, about $$ x = 3$$

So here is how far I've gotten with this problem. I need help though. Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.. One of the problems is I don't understand what "about x = 3" means exactly? Like what do they mean "about x = 3?" Anyways here is what I have:

I have a right and left parabola basically. I set the two equal to each other to find lines of intersection.

$$
y^2 = 1 - y^2$$

thus;
$$y = \frac{\sqrt{2}}{{2}}$$So I know the areas are even symmetry so I can say $$2\pi \int^\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}_0 (Right - left)dy $$

right?

so am i correct in saying $$2\pi \int^\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}_0 (1 - y^2)^2 - (y^2)^2 dy$$?
 
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Here is a plot:

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Imagine the plot rotated 90° clockwise. Now the outer radius of an arbitrary washer will be the distance between the axis of rotation $x=3$ and the function $x=y^2$, while the inner radius will be the distance from the axis of rotation and the function $x=1-y^2$.

You are correct that you can use symmetry as follows:

$$V=2\pi\int_0^{\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}} (\text{outer radius})^2-(\text{inner radius})^2\,dy$$

Can you find the radii?
 

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$$2\pi \int ^\sqrt{2/2}_0 (3 - y^2)^2 - (3 - (1 - y^2)^2 dy $$

$$2\pi \int^\sqrt{2/2}_0 9 - 6y^2 + y^4 - 3 + 1 + 2y^2 - y^4$$

$$= 2\pi \int^\sqrt{2/2}_0 5 - 8y^2 + 2y^4 $$

Is this correct?
 
shamieh said:
$$2\pi \int ^\sqrt{2/2}_0 (3 - y^2)^2 - (3 - (1 - y^2)^2 dy $$

$$2\pi \int^\sqrt{2/2}_0 9 - 6y^2 + y^4 - 3 + 1 + 2y^2 - y^4$$

$$= 2\pi \int^\sqrt{2/2}_0 5 - 8y^2 + 2y^4 $$

Is this correct?

Your upper limit should be $$\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}$$ or $$\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}$$.

Now, your integrand in the first line is correct, except for a missing closing bracket. After that you have made some algebra mistakes. You should initially have:

$$\left(3-y^2 \right)^2-\left(3-\left(1-y^2 \right) \right)^2$$

Now, let's first distribute the negative sign in the second term:

$$\left(3-y^2 \right)^2-\left(3-1+y^2 \right)^2$$

Collect like terms:

$$\left(3-y^2 \right)^2-\left(2+y^2 \right)^2$$

Expand:

$$\left(9-6y^2+y^4 \right)-\left(4+4y^2+y^4 \right)$$

Distribute negative sign and remove brackets:

$$9-6y^2+y^4-4-4y^2-y^4$$

Collect like terms:

$$5-10y^2=5\left(1-2y^2 \right)$$

And so you may state:

$$V=10\pi\int_0^{\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}} 1-2y^2\,dy$$
 
Thanks for helping me with my signs Mark. Seems like that was the hardest part of the whole problem lol.

so

$$10 * (y - \frac{2y^3}{3}) | 0 to \frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}$$

$$\frac{30\pi\sqrt{2}}{6} - \frac{10\pi}{6} = \frac{10\pi\sqrt{2}}{3}$$

WOW! What a problem. Is this correct? I'm praying it is
 
Yes, that's correct:

$$V=10\pi\left[y-\frac{2}{3}y^3 \right]_0^{\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}}= \frac{10\pi}{\sqrt{2}}\left(1-\frac{2}{3}\cdot\frac{1}{2} \right)= \frac{10\pi}{\sqrt{2}}\cdot\frac{2}{3}= \frac{20\pi}{3\sqrt{2}}= \frac{10\sqrt{2}\pi}{3}$$
 

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