What does f(x,y) represent in Poisson's Equation?

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The discussion revolves around Poisson's equation, specifically the term f(x,y) within the context of physical interpretations. Participants explore the implications of this equation in various physical scenarios, including heat distribution and electromagnetic fields.

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  • Participants attempt to clarify what f(x,y) represents in different physical contexts, such as temperature distribution in a rod and electric fields in electromagnetism. Questions arise regarding the implications of f(x,y) being zero and its physical significance in specific scenarios.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering various interpretations of f(x,y) and questioning its physical meaning. Some guidance has been provided regarding specific applications, but multiple interpretations are still being explored without a clear consensus.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the physical representation of mathematical quantities, with some participants emphasizing the distinction between mathematics and physics. The context of heat distribution and electromagnetic theory is being examined, but assumptions and definitions remain under discussion.

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So poissons equation takes the for uxx + uyy = f(x,y)
Laplace is where f(x,y). What does the f(x,y) physically represent?


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Laplace equation is when f(x,y)=0. f(x,y) can represent many things physically. the solution of this problem can represent many things for example u could be a steady state temperature of the cross section of a rod with an electrical current.
 
What you wrote does not make sense to me, but the question got through nonetheless.

In Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism, the electromagnetic field is governed by a set of 4 equations and one of them is Poisson's equation where u is the electric field in space-time (x,y,z,t) and f(x,y,z,t) is an expression taking into account the density of charge and the rate of change of the magnetic field at the point (x,y,z,t) in space-time.
 
buzzmath said:
Laplace equation is when f(x,y)=0. f(x,y) can represent many things physically. the solution of this problem can represent many things for example u could be a steady state temperature of the cross section of a rod with an electrical current.

But what is f actually doing to this cross section?
 
quasar987 said:
What you wrote does not make sense to me, but the question got through nonetheless.

In Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism, the electromagnetic field is governed by a set of 4 equations and one of them is Poisson's equation where u is the electric field in space-time (x,y,z,t) and f(x,y,z,t) is an expression taking into account the density of charge and the rate of change of the magnetic field at the point (x,y,z,t) in space-time.

And when f = 0 ? What does it mean in this case?
 
Well it means that this particular Maxwell's equation ([tex]\nabla^2\vec{E}=0[/tex]) is describing the evolution of the electric field in a region where there are no electric charges and where the magnetic field is constant.
 
So say one is concerned with the heat distribution among a metal plate, what would f mean and what would f = 0 mean?
 
Maybe I should have written this in the undergraduate physics forum.
 
You can ask a mentor to move it.
 
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I hate to keep saying this but mathematics is not physics! Quantities in a mathematical equation do NOT have any "physical" meaning and do not "physically represent" anything until you apply them to a specific physics problem.

(I guess I am like an ex-smoker. I started majoring in physics, then switched my major to mathematics, though staying in applied math (My doctoral disertation was on computing Clebsch-Gordon Coefficients in general SU(n)) but have steadily moved to more abstract mathematics since.)

That said, if you have [itex]\nabla \phi= \kappa \partial \phi/\partial t+ f(x,y,t)[/itex] specifically applied to heat distribution on a plate, then f(x,y,z) might represent an external heat source applied to every point of the plate.
 

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