What Does Rotating a Circular Arc Create?

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Rotating a 180-degree circular arc creates a sphere, while a 90-degree arc forms a surface that is not an ellipsoid due to the presence of cusps. The discussion suggests that the shape resulting from rotating an arc greater than 180 degrees resembles a spindle torus, prompting interest in obtaining a mathematical description of its outer shell. The participants express curiosity about the intersection of different shapes, specifically referencing lemon and apple geometries. The conversation emphasizes the need for equations that accurately represent these complex 3D forms.
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A 180 degree circular arc (i.e. a half sphere) is obvious:

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When you rotate this about its two end points, you get a sphere.

What about for something less than 180 degrees (e.g. 90)?:

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I believe this forms an ellipsoid, with coefficients a and b being equal, with respect to wikipedia's entry on ellipsoid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsoid. Can anyone confirm that is correct?

I have no idea what it would be for something greater than 180 degrees:

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Its cross section would look like a butterfly. I have no idea what the 3D shape would be called. Anyone have any idea? I'm especially interested in obtaining an equation that would describe its surface.
 
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murrdpirate0 said:
A 180 degree circular arc (i.e. a half sphere) is obvious:

Upx2A.png


When you rotate this about its two end points, you get a sphere.

What about for something less than 180 degrees (e.g. 90)?:

8up3r.png
iWLlN.png


I believe this forms an ellipsoid, with coefficients a and b being equal, with respect to wikipedia's entry on ellipsoid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsoid. Can anyone confirm that is correct?

It cannot be an ellipsoid. The reason is that an ellipsoid is smooth everywhere, while your surface has "cusps" on the bottom and on the top.

I have no idea what it would be for something greater than 180 degrees:

VUJC1.png
kYgBs.png


Its cross section would look like a butterfly. I have no idea what the 3D shape would be called. Anyone have any idea? I'm especially interested in obtaining an equation that would describe its surface.

It looks like a spindle torus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spindle_torus
 
I was just looking at the spindle torus and I agree, that appears right. It would be preferable if I could have the math only describe the outer shell, but maybe that's not practical.

Good point about the other shape not being an ellipsoid. I don't think I would have noticed that. I guess it's actually the inner surface of the spindle torus. Being able to make an equation for that might solve both problems...

Thanks for the help. Any other ideas are warmly welcomed :)

Edit: Just found this http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Lemon.html and this http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Apple.html I need to find the intersection of these two shapes. Looks pretty promising.
 
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