What does "transforms covariantly" mean here?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the meaning of "transforms covariantly" in the context of a Lagrangian for a scalar field, particularly focusing on its behavior under translations and the implications for invariance and covariance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that the Lagrangian is Lorentz invariant and transforms covariantly under translation, seeking clarification on what this means.
  • One participant provides a transformation equation for the scalar field under translation, indicating how the field changes with respect to the transformation.
  • Another participant questions whether the Lagrangian's transformation under translation implies invariance rather than covariance.
  • It is noted that while invariance is a special case of covariance, covariance of scalars is defined as invariance.
  • A participant expresses curiosity about the distinction made between covariance and invariance in the context of the transformations discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of covariance versus invariance, with some agreeing on the definitions while others question the necessity of distinguishing between the two in this context. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these terms.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of covariance and invariance, and how they apply specifically to the Lagrangian and scalar fields under translation.

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The Lagrangian for scalar field under translation
The Lagrangian, $$\mathcal L(x)= \frac 1 2 \partial^{\mu} \phi (x) \partial_{\mu} \phi (x) - \frac 1 2 m^2 \phi (x)^2$$ for a scalar field ##\phi (x)## is said to be Lorentz invariant and to transform covariantly under translation.
What does it mean that it transforms covariantly under translation?
 
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This means that under translation ##x\to x'(x)=x+a## it transforms as
$$\phi(x)\to\phi'(x')=\phi(x(x'))$$
where ##x(x')=x'-a## is the inverse of ##x'(x)##.
 
Demystifier said:
This means that under translation ##x\to x'(x)=x+a## it transforms as
$$\phi(x)\to\phi'(x')=\phi(x(x'))$$
I understand that this is how ##x## and how ##\phi## transform. But regarding ##\mathcal L##, I think, it makes it rather invariant under translation, doesn't it?
 
Hill said:
I understand that this is how ##x## and how ##\phi## transform. But regarding ##\mathcal L##, I think, it makes it rather invariant under translation, doesn't it?
Yes, but invariant is a special case of covariant. More precisely, covariance of scalars is invariance.
 
Demystifier said:
Yes, but invariant is a special case of covariant. More precisely, covariance of scalars is invariance.
Thank you. I thought, there is a reason for him separating the two transformations rather than saying that it is "Lorentz and translational invariant" or "Poincare invariant."
 

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