What Factors Cause a Water Container to Tip Over When Accelerated?

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The discussion revolves around the factors that cause a water container to tip over when subjected to acceleration. The subject area includes fluid dynamics and mechanics, particularly focusing on the behavior of a cylindrical tank containing water under various conditions of acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the attributes of the water volume and the shape of the container that influence tipping. Questions are raised about the relevance of the cylindrical surface and the weight density of the water. There is also discussion about the effects of acceleration in both circular and straight-line scenarios.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the necessary attributes to determine tipping conditions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the characteristics of the water and the container, but multiple interpretations and approaches are still being explored.

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Participants are considering various scenarios, including straight-line acceleration and the geometry of the cylindrical tank. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the water does not spill over, which adds constraints to the problem.

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Homework Statement
A weightless cylindrical tank of diameter D and height H rests on a nonslip surface on a flatcar going around a circular track of radius R. The tank contains water to depth h with a free surface, and we assume h < H such that water won't slop over the tank's edge. The flatcar's speed is gradually increased to V. Two possibilities exist: 1. Only part of the water occupies the "ungula" (the heel-shaped volume under the sloping free surface, and 2. All the water ends up in the Ungula, exposing some of the tank's floor. At what value of V will the tank begin to tip over?
Relevant Equations
Radial acceleration, a = V^2/R;
Angle of free surface, alpha = arctan(a/g), where g = acceleration of gravity
Not clear how to proceed. Does the cylindrical surface of the ungula need to be considered?
 
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kbannister said:
Does the cylindrical surface of the ungula need to be considered?
Yes.
What attribute of the water volume do you need to determine in order to decide whether it will tip?
 
haruspex said:
Yes.
What attribute of the water volume do you need to determine in order to decide whether it will tip?
Assume the water has a weight density of gamma.
 
The question concerns determining the speed, V, around the circular track of radius R. A simpler version of the problem is the situation when the container is accelerated in a straight line at acceleration a.
 
kbannister said:
Assume the water has a weight density of gamma.
No, that's an attribute of the water itself. I asked for an attribute of the volume (shape) the water occupies.
 
haruspex said:
Yes.
What attribute of the water volume do you need to determine in order to decide whether it will tip?
The tank is cylindrical, diameter D, height H, water depth h where h < H so that the water won’t spill over.
 
Will a diagram help? Does it need anything added?

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kbannister said:
The tank is cylindrical, diameter D, height H, water depth h where h < H so that the water won’t spill over.
For any object of given weight standing (not slipping) on a horizontal surface and subject to a sideways force of given magnitude, what determines whether it will tip over?
 
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kbannister said:
A simpler version of the problem is the situation when the container is accelerated in a straight line at acceleration a.
What (and how much of it) would make the container tip over in that simpler version?
 

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