What happened to make my battery melt?

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The discussion revolves around the causes of a melted gel battery, exploring potential issues related to battery connections, overheating, and repair options. Participants share their insights on the implications of damaged terminals and the safety of continued use.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a bad connection while charging or driving could have caused the melting.
  • One participant proposes that a corroded connection between the battery terminal and cable connector became resistive, generating heat that damaged the insulation.
  • Another participant raises the possibility of a short circuit between the positive connector and the vehicle chassis as a cause of the issue.
  • Concerns are expressed about the condition of the negative pole, with suggestions that it may require significant repair or replacement.
  • There is mention of a kit available for repairing battery terminals, which includes molds and a lead filler rod, though its safety and effectiveness are questioned.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the practicality of using welding gear for battery repairs, highlighting the risks involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact cause of the battery melting, with multiple competing views on potential issues and repair methods. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best course of action.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of assessing the condition of battery connections and the potential risks of attempting repairs without proper experience. There are unresolved concerns about the safety of using a damaged battery.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals dealing with automotive battery issues, DIY enthusiasts considering repairs, and those seeking insights into battery maintenance and safety precautions.

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hi what can have caused that ?
bad connection while charging or driving .
on side has melted.
this is gel battery
is it still safe to use?
https://imgur.com/xSTVRTI
hi what can have caused that ?
bad connection while charging or driving .
on side has melted.
this is gel battery
is it still safe to use?
 
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It looks like a corroded connection between the battery terminal and the cable connector became resistive and generated sufficient heat to damage the insulation.

Alternatively there was a short circuit between the positive connector and the vehicle chassis.
Where is the battery clamp ? Did that cause the short circuit ?

Clean or replace all corroded connectors. Replace the battery clamp.
 
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Based on the image I suspect those screws are not the original equipment used for those connections.
Try to find out how it was connected originally and restore it as much as you can.

Regarding the damaged negative pole... That'll be tricky. Unless you have some experience with high current electrical connections (with lead involved) you better replace the battery.
 
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Baluncore said:
It looks like a corroded connection between the battery terminal and the cable connector became resistive and generated sufficient heat to damage the insulation.
But that negative post (= electrical terminal) is seriously knackered. To connect to it would require it to be filed to provide two good parallel, clean flats on it or possibly built up with plumbing solder* to make it look like the one on the left of the picture. Without a good area of contact with the leads you couldn't sustain a heavy current. You can always test any repair by feeling the terminals after starting the engine (not during!). If the contact is adequate then they will both feel the same temperature.

I am bit concerned that the Red insulation has been burned (??). We need a picture of the two cable ends / connectors. Have they suffered overheating? It seems that both ends of the battery could have over heated due to bad connections. Was the high resistance due to a failed connection between the cable end and its termination?

But all is not lost, if you could find a use for a healthy battery that would involve just a few tens of A then a much less meaty terminal would do the job. Perhaps a stand by lighting system in your garage??

*Some skill and experience required here - plus a big, high power soldering iron. Needs to be done very quickly to avoid melting the plastic lid of the battery. Not a job for a casual DIYer and you need to be prepared to chuck it away if the mending fails.
 
There is a kit available that includes battery terminal molds, a lead filler rod, and what look like carbon gouging rods to strike an arc ? to melt the lead. It does not show welding gogles.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/363050412581
 
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Brilliant! I wonder if any PF members have used one successfully / at all.
The beauty is that uses its own power to do the 'welding' with.
 
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The beauty is that uses its own power to do the 'welding' with.
Yeah, what could possibly go wrong?
 
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pbuk said:
Yeah, what could possibly go wrong?
But how many people have their own welding gear or alternative 12v many Amp as upply.
I’m waiting for someone to report using one. PF has a few whacky DIYers, you know.
 
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berkeman said:
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After review, the thread will remain closed. The advice to replace the battery (and recycle the old one) is the best way to go, IMO.
 
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