What happens in a short circuit situation (parallel)?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the behavior of current in a circuit with a short circuit in parallel with resistors of 4Ω, 6Ω, and 12Ω. Participants concluded that the current through these resistors is effectively zero due to the presence of a resistance-free path created by the short circuit. The professor's assertion that the current through the 4Ω resistor is theoretically infinite was debated, with participants emphasizing that practical limitations prevent infinite current flow. Ultimately, the consensus is that while theoretical discussions may suggest infinite current, practical considerations such as source limitations and wire resistance must be acknowledged.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Ohm's Law (V=IR)
  • Knowledge of parallel resistor calculations (R_{T}=\frac{1}{\frac{1}{R_{1}}+\frac{1}{R_{2}}+...\frac{1}{R_{N}}})
  • Familiarity with circuit analysis principles, including Kirchhoff's laws
  • Basic concepts of electrical resistance and current flow
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the implications of short circuits in electrical circuits
  • Learn about practical limitations of current sources in circuit design
  • Explore advanced circuit analysis techniques, including Thevenin's and Norton's theorems
  • Investigate the effects of wire resistance on current flow in circuits
USEFUL FOR

Electrical engineering students, circuit designers, and anyone interested in understanding the principles of current flow in parallel circuits, particularly in scenarios involving short circuits.

JJBladester
Gold Member
Messages
281
Reaction score
2

Homework Statement



What will be the current flowing theoretically through each resistor this short-circuit case?

short_circuit.png



Homework Equations



V=IR
I=V/R
R_{T}=\frac{1}{\frac{1}{R_{1}}+\frac{1}{R_{2}}+...\frac{1}{R_{N}}}
For a closed loop, \sum I_{entering}=\sum I_{leaving}

The Attempt at a Solution



My answer: The current through each resistor will be effectively zero. This is because a practically resistance-free path exists (the short circuit) through which essentially all of the current will flow.

The professor's response: Theoretically, the current through the 4-ohm resistor is infinite.

I disagree. How can the current through any of the resistors (4Ω, 6Ω, or 12Ω) be anything other than ~0 A when the current will seek the path of least resistance (the short circuit)?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
The 4-ohm resistor short circuits, thus making its resistance zero, from ohm's law.

I = v/r, since r is 0, I is infinity.
 
JJBladester said:
The professor's response: Theoretically, the current through the 4-ohm resistor is infinite.
I doubt that your professor would have said precisely that. He probably said that the current through branch 1 would theoretically be infinite.

There will be zero current through all resistors, R1, R2, and R3. There is no current through them because all of the current is going through the short circuit which I understand has been placed in parallel to R1. Although all of the current that the source can supply will go through the short circuit, it of course won't be infinite because no practical source will be able to maintain its output at 2 volts regardless of the load, not right down to short-circuit conditions.

Perhaps your professor meant that all of the current flowed through R1because R1 was accidently set to 0 ohms? If that's the case, then it is no longer correct to refer to R1 as the "4 ohm resistor". :smile:
 
NascentOxygen said:
I doubt that your professor would have said precisely that.

Oh, but he did!
 
I presume he was talking about the "four ohm resistor" after the short circuit when would no longer be "four ohm". Still calling it a "four ohm resistor" is misleading but the concept is correct. (And "theoretically" is important- there will be some resistance in the wires which would keep the currant from being "infinite".)
 
HallsofIvy said:
...and "theoretically" is important- there will be some resistance in the wires which would keep the current from being "infinite".

Also, the current cannot be infinite because the battery cannot push out an infinite number of electrons.

But yes, HallsofIvy, I agree that you cannot call the 4 Ω resistor as such after the short circuit. That's what really confused me.

I responded to the professor as follows:

Perhaps I am misinterpreting your drawing. That is the only explanation I can come up with that would make sense. If the short-circuit branch in Case C is not in addition to, but rather a replacement for the normally-operating 4 Ω resistor, then your explanation makes sense.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

Similar threads

Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
893
  • · Replies 31 ·
2
Replies
31
Views
4K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
1K