What Happens When a Laser Hits a Mirror Corner?

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The discussion explores the theoretical implications of shining a laser beam into the intersection of two mirrors, particularly focusing on the behavior of the reflected beam when it hits the corner perfectly. The conversation touches on concepts from geometry, optics, and quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what happens to a laser beam when it hits the corner of two mirrors, noting the undefined nature of a sharp point in relation to reflection.
  • Another participant simplifies the scenario by asking if an infinitely thin laser beam would reflect or miss the mirror edge.
  • A different viewpoint asserts that a laser beam cannot have zero width, suggesting that each half of the beam would reflect off the mirror.
  • One participant introduces the idea of using a beam of electrons, questioning the outcome if they were to hit the corner perfectly, while acknowledging the uncertainty principle.
  • Another participant discusses the need for atomic flatness in the mirrors, implying that at such scales, quantum mechanics becomes relevant and raises questions about interactions at the atomic level.
  • A participant emphasizes that derivatives assume continuity, arguing that at the molecular scale, interactions involve discrete atoms, leading to a probability distribution for outcomes in quantum mechanics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the laser beam and its interaction with the mirrors, with no consensus reached on the implications of a perfect corner intersection or the applicability of quantum mechanics in this scenario.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of light and matter, the scale of interactions, and the implications of quantum mechanics, which remain unresolved and depend on definitions of continuity and atomic structure.

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Question: If you were to theoretically shine a laser into the intersection of two mirrors, what would happen to the reflected beam? When I say 'theoretically' I mean that the beam would hit the corner perfectly.

I'm confused by this because the derivative of a sharp point on a graph is undefined, so it would seem that there would be no real reflective surface angle off of which the beam could reflect.

Also, treat the laser as if it has zero width (essentially, treat it as a line).

This is not a homework question - it's just something I thought up.
~IKnowN0thingEDIT: I thought that this would fit better over in the logic section, so I re-posted it there.
 
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Let's simplify things. I have an infinitely thin laser beam. I shine it at the very edge of the mirror... does it reflect, or does it miss the mirror?
 
You can't make a laser beam of zero width. As a result each half would reflect off that mirror.
 
What if you made a single beam of electrons, and, (for sake of the question) they were to hit the corner perfectly? (The uncertainty principle aside...)
 
Well, for your mirror intersection to also be a perfect geometrical line, they each have to be atomically flat, in which case you don't really have an interface at all. So are you just asking what happens when you hit an atom with an electron head on? If things get to this length scale you need quantum mechanics for a reason.
 
IK0 said:
I'm confused by this because the derivative of a sharp point...

Derivatives assume continuity. Matter can be considered continuous on a macroscopic scale, but on the molecular scale, we all know it's made of discrete atoms. At this point, you're talking about a single photon interacting with a single atom. This is where you need QM, and the answer will be a probability distribution for the outcome.
 
Oh I see. :)

Thanks for the help, this was really bugging me.
 

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