What happens when an explosion occurs on the surface of the moon?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of an explosion occurring on the surface of the moon, exploring the behavior of expanding gases and material in a vacuum environment. Participants consider various aspects of explosions, including their dynamics, the impact of lunar gravity, and the potential for material ejection and flow.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that slower explosions on the moon would create ground-hugging flows of hot gas, similar to pyroclastic surges on Earth, due to the influence of lunar gravity.
  • Another viewpoint posits that higher speed explosions would produce gas flows akin to wind, which could be deflected by obstacles, depending on the initial temperature and speed of the explosion.
  • It is proposed that the wind from the explosion would be strongest at the moment of impact and would weaken over time, while also throwing up material that could travel independently due to the lack of air resistance.
  • A participant references the Apollo 12 mission, noting that even a small engine caused significant material ejection, suggesting that a larger explosion would have a more pronounced effect.
  • Some participants share links to external readings related to explosive gas blasts, although there are comments regarding access restrictions to some of these resources.
  • One participant mentions a detail about pressure peaks in explosions, indicating that the pressure peak occurs a few microseconds after the detonation wave hits, though the implications of this are not fully explored.

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Participants express various hypotheses about the behavior of explosions on the moon, with no clear consensus reached. Different models and interpretations of the effects of gravity and gas dynamics are presented, indicating ongoing debate.

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Some discussions touch on the limitations of existing literature and the need for further exploration of specific aspects, such as the behavior of lunar dust and the dynamics of pressure peaks in explosions.

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Some aspects I assume a lunar surface explosion would have that I havent found any mention of. Do these aspects exist? If so, why havent they been mentioned?
In an explosion in space, material is heated and expands. On the surface of Earth, it doesnt get too far, instead transferring its energy into shockwaves and tremors. But on the surface of the moon, if I'm right:

- Explosions with slower initial speeds (of the expanding material that makes up the blast, which is equivalent to the heat at the centre of the blast) have expanding flows of hot gas that, because they dont move fast enough to be more or less unaffected by lunar gravity, are groundhugging, and would be like a pyroclastic surge on Earth.

-With higher speed explosions, the hot gas, pushed out by the explosion, would be travelling faster and would be like 'wind'. It could be deflected by obstacles (asumming those remained intact, but the hot gas, if still hot, would have a tendency to expand and so, as it moved past an obstacle would expand to fill the void created by said obstacle. If it has cooled down to having little or no heat, you might be able to escape the wind by hiding behind some sort of barrier.). The speed of the explosion, and thus 'wind' depends on the initial temperature of the blast.

-In both cases, the wind would be strongest as it hit your location and, from the perspective of any specific location, would weaken as time passed. Also, the wind would throw up material on its own, and this material could travel independently (without being slowed down by air) and make up its own flow of material. And the explosion itself could throw out bits and pieces of the bomb, asteroid, or surrounding material and send it hurling outwards, sandblasting the surrounding area, and perhaps creating its own distinct flow of material as well. Not that it has to be groundhugging like a pyroclastic surge. (This happened to Surveyor 3 when Apollo 12's exhaust shot out particles everywhere. The probe was 180m away and Apollo 12's engine was a dimunitive one compared to some commonly used ones, so imagine what magnitude this would be if an actual surface explosion happened).
 
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Didnt tell me much, except apparently the pressure peak isnt right when the blast qave hits and decreasing thereafter. The ppressure peak is a few microseconds after the detonation wave hits.
 
I havent read the second text yet (the one about lunar dust). I didnt spot the link until now.
 

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