What happens with counter rotating gyroscopes?

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The discussion centers on the use of counter-rotating gyroscopes for stabilizing landing vehicles, particularly in the context of retro rockets. It concludes that while two gyroscopes positioned closely together may cancel each other's rotational effects, they do not provide stabilization benefits due to the potential for tilt precession. The conversation also highlights the challenges of implementing gyroscopic stabilization in flying vehicles, which require consideration of weight, size, and cost compared to traditional steering rockets.

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I was thinking about retro rockets for landing and how precise they have to be, but then i thought "you could stabilize the whole thing with a gyroscope". Then I realized the gyroscope would cause the landing shipment to rotate in the opposite direction.

So I thought, hey, why not two gyroscopes, like almost right on top of each other?
Would the two cancel each other? Would they rotate or experience some kind of tilt precession in that gap between the two along the axis?
And what if you have 3 or 4 +gyroscopes going clockwise & counter clockwise?
 
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If they are on the same axle so that their forces cancel through the axle, then the axle can be moved with no effect from the spinning. So I don't think there would be any stabilization benefit from the gyros.
 
shintashi said:
So I thought, hey, why not two gyroscopes, like almost right on top of each other?

See here:



For a flying vehicle it's more difficult, because it has more degrees of freedom. And it would have to be lighter / smaller / cheaper than the fuel spent by the steering rockets, to be worth it.
 

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