What Horizontal Distance Does a Block Cover After Launching Up an Incline?

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The problem involves a block launched from a compressed spring on an incline, with the goal of determining the horizontal distance it covers after leaving the incline. The context includes concepts from mechanics, specifically energy conservation, kinematics, and projectile motion.

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  • Participants discuss energy conservation principles and the calculations for speed at various points. There are attempts to analyze the motion in terms of horizontal and vertical components, as well as questions about the correctness of acceleration and velocity calculations.

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Some participants have provided guidance on re-evaluating the approach to finding horizontal distance, suggesting the need to consider the time of flight for the entire trajectory rather than just the ascent. There are ongoing discussions about the implications of calculated speeds and the correct interpretation of motion components.

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Participants are navigating through potential sign errors in their calculations and questioning the assumptions made regarding the motion of the block, particularly in terms of direction and time of flight.

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Homework Statement


A spring with a spring constant = 1000 N/m is compressed 0.20 m then launches a block of mass 200 g. The horizontal surface is frictionless and the coefficient of kinetic friction with the inline is 0.15.
What horizontal distance does the block cover while in the air after it takes off at the top of the incline?
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deltaK + deltaUg + deltaUs = 0
(1/2mv^2f -1/2mv^2i) + 0 + (1/2kx^2f - 1/2kx^2i) = 0
1/2mv^2f = 1/2kx^2i
v = sqrt(kx^2/m)
v = 14.14 m/s

Distance up incline:
x = 2.5m/sin50
=3.264 m

Acceleration:
-mgsin0 - ukmgcos0 = ma
a = -gsin50-(0.15)(-9.81)cos50
a = 6.562

Speed at the top:
v^2 = vi^2 +2ad
v = sqrt[14.14^2 + 2(6.562)(3.264)]
v = 15.58 m/s

I'm not sure what the next step would be (also not sure if the above steps are correct).
To find horizontal distance covered would I have to find the horizontal time and then using speed = distance/time solve for distance?

Thanks =]
 

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How can the speed at the top be greater than the speed at the bottom?
 
paisiello2 said:
How can the speed at the top be greater than the speed at the bottom?
Oops I think I got some of the signs wrong

Acceleration:
-mgsin0 - ukmgcos0 = ma
a = -gsin50-(0.15)(9.81)cos50
a = -8.456 m/s^2

so velocity at the top:
v^2 = vi^2 +2ad
v = 14.14^2 + 2(-8.452)(3.264)
v = 12.03 m/s
 
OK, much better.

Your idea to find the horizontal distance might not work as you stated it. Can you try something else along the same idea?
 
paisiello2 said:
OK, much better.

Your idea to find the horizontal distance might not work as you stated it. Can you try something else along the same idea?
At max height v = 0
Time to reach max height:
t = visin0/g
t = 12.03sin50/9.81
t = 0.9394 seconds

x= xo + vit
x = 0 + (12.03)(0.9394)
x = 11.3 m
 
Good try but you made two mistakes:
1) The time t you calculated is only the time for the block to reach the maximum height. What about the time it takes to come back down?
2) What direction is vi going in?
 
paisiello2 said:
Good try but you made two mistakes:
1) The time t you calculated is only the time for the block to reach the maximum height. What about the time it takes to come back down?
2) What direction is vi going in?

Would I have to find the time of flight for the whole range of the parabola first?
time of flight:
y = yo + 1/2gt^2
2.5 = 0 + 1/2(9.81)t^2
t = 0.7143 s

Horizontal distance:
x= xo + vit
x = 0 + (12.03)(0.7143)
x = 8.6 m
 
No, you break it into separate x and y components. You started off right in your first attempt but didn't finish it for some reason.
 

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