What integer makes $(x-a)(x-10) +1$ factorable as $(x+b)(x+ c)$?

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The discussion revolves around finding an integer \( a \) such that the expression \( (x-a)(x-10) + 1 \) can be factored into the form \( (x+b)(x+c) \), where \( b \) and \( c \) are also integers. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploration of factorization conditions.

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  • Some participants present the equation \( (x-a)(x-10) + 1 = (x+b)(x+c) \) and derive the conditions for \( b \) and \( c \) by equating coefficients.
  • Participants note that the coefficients lead to the equations \( -(10 + a) = b + c \) and \( 10a + 1 = bc \), prompting further exploration of these relationships.
  • One participant questions whether there are finitely many values for \( a \) that satisfy the conditions and whether \( b \) and \( c \) need to be distinct integers, suggesting \( a=8 \) as a valid solution if they are not distinct.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for a fully explained solution, indicating the problem's challenge nature and its placement in a specific sub-forum.

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Participants express varying views on the conditions for \( b \) and \( c \), with some suggesting specific values for \( a \) while others raise questions about the uniqueness and distinctness of the integers involved. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the totality of solutions and the nature of \( b \) and \( c \).

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the distinctness of \( b \) and \( c \) and the implications of this on the values of \( a \). The mathematical steps leading to potential solutions are not fully explored.

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find integer a such that $(x-a)(x-10) +1$ can be factored as $(x+b)(x+ c)$ where b and c are integers
 
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kaliprasad said:
find integer a such that $(x-a)(x-10) +1$ can be factored as $(x+b)(x+ c)$ where b and c are integers

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \left( x - a \right) \left( x - 10 \right) + 1 &= \left( x + b \right) \left( x + c \right) \\ x^2 - 10x - a\,x + 10a + 1 &= x^2 + c\,x + b\,x + b\,c \\ x^2 - \left( 10 + a \right) x + 10a + 1 &= x^2 + \left( b + c \right) x + b\,c \end{align*}$

So equating the coefficients gives $\displaystyle \begin{align*} - \left( 10 + a \right) = b + c \end{align*}$ and $\displaystyle \begin{align*} 10a + 1 = b\,c \end{align*}$. See what you can do from here.
 
Prove It said:
$\displaystyle \begin{align*} \left( x - a \right) \left( x - 10 \right) + 1 &= \left( x + b \right) \left( x + c \right) \\ x^2 - 10x - a\,x + 10a + 1 &= x^2 + c\,x + b\,x + b\,c \\ x^2 - \left( 10 + a \right) x + 10a + 1 &= x^2 + \left( b + c \right) x + b\,c \end{align*}$

So equating the coefficients gives $\displaystyle \begin{align*} - \left( 10 + a \right) = b + c \end{align*}$ and $\displaystyle \begin{align*} 10a + 1 = b\,c \end{align*}$. See what you can do from here.

Hi Prove It,(Smile)

This problem is meant to be a challenge and thus, it deserves a fully well explained solution. But I understand that you have been posting quite much help at this site recently that it might be just the case that you didn't aware this problem comes from the Challenge Problems sub-forum.:)
 
anemone said:
Hi Prove It,(Smile)

This problem is meant to be a challenge and thus, it deserves a fully well explained solution. But I understand that you have been posting quite much help at this site recently that it might be just the case that you didn't aware this problem comes from the Challenge Problems sub-forum.:)

Yes I should look at what forum these questions are in hahaha.
 
kaliprasad said:
find integer a such that $(x-a)(x-10) +1$ can be factored as $(x+b)(x+ c)$ where b and c are integers

Hi kaliprasad,

Thanks for posting another great math challenge at MHB, I deeply appreciate that.

For this challenge, I was wondering if there are (finitely) many values for $a$ that meet the condition of the problem? Also, if $b$ and $c$ meant to be distinct integer? If they are not, then I can tell $a=8$ is a valid solution though.:)
 
anemone said:
Hi kaliprasad,

Thanks for posting another great math challenge at MHB, I deeply appreciate that.

For this challenge, I was wondering if there are (finitely) many values for $a$ that meet the condition of the problem? Also, if $b$ and $c$ meant to be distinct integer? If they are not, then I can tell $a=8$ is a valid solution though.:)

Not a solution but resolving query. you should provide the method

1) there are more than 1
2) b and c may be same
3) finite number of solutions
 
$$(x-a)(x-10)+1=x^2-(10+a)x+10a+1$$
Since we need to resolve the above into two linear factors, the discriminant must be greater than or equal to zero i.e
$$(10+a)^2-4\cdot (10a+1) \geq 0 \Rightarrow a^2-20a+96 \geq 0$$
$$\Rightarrow (a-12)(a-8) \geq 0$$
Also, the discriminant must be a perfect square i.e
$$(a-12)(a-8)=m^2$$
where $m$ is some integer. Substitute $a-10=t$.
$$\Rightarrow t^2=2^2+m^2$$
Clearly, $m=0$ i.e $\boxed{a=8,12}$.
 
Pranav said:
$$(x-a)(x-10)+1=x^2-(10+a)x+10a+1$$
Since we need to resolve the above into two linear factors, the discriminant must be greater than or equal to zero i.e
$$(10+a)^2-4\cdot (10a+1) \geq 0 \Rightarrow a^2-20a+96 \geq 0$$
$$\Rightarrow (a-12)(a-8) \geq 0$$
Also, the discriminant must be a perfect square i.e
$$(a-12)(a-8)=m^2$$
where $m$ is some integer. Substitute $a-10=t$.
$$\Rightarrow t^2=2^2+m^2$$
Clearly, $m=0$ i.e $\boxed{a=8,12}$.

above is a good ans and completely different from solution below

as $(x-a)(x-10)+ 1 = (x+b)(x+c)$
Putting $x = -b$ we get
$(-a-b)(-b-10) + 1=0$ or
$(a+b)(b+10) = -1$
This implies $(a+b) = 1$ and $b+ 10 = - 1$ or $b = -11\, a = 12$
Or $a+b = -1$ and $b + 10 = 1$ => $b = -9\, a = 8$
hence a = 8 or 12

because of symmetry nature of RHS we need not put x = c
 
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