What is 2nd Sine? Solving a Triangle with 13.5 Hypotenuse

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To find angle P in a triangle with a hypotenuse of 13.5 and a height of 11.8, the sine function is used, where sin P = opposite/hypotenuse, resulting in sin P = 11.8/13.5. The textbook suggests using "2nd sine," which refers to the inverse sine function, often denoted as arcsin. This function calculates the angle whose sine is the given ratio, leading to the correct angle P of approximately 71.468 degrees. Users are advised to check their calculators for a "2nd" or "SHIFT" button to access the inverse sine function. A potential typo in the textbook was noted, causing confusion in the calculations.
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Homework Statement


A triangle with a hypotenuse of 13.5 and height of 11.8. Find the measure of angle P.
Angle p is on the same line as the 90 degree angle and I found out that it must be sine.

Homework Equations


sine = opposite/hypotenuse

The Attempt at a Solution


sin p = 11.8/13.5
sin p = .874

Textbooks answer: sin p = 71.468
It says I need to use something called 2nd sine like this: 2nd sin(11.8/13.5), which I can't find on my calculator and hasn't been introduced in the textbook until now. It doesn't explain 2nd sin. What does it mean and how do I go about solving this on my own?
 

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It would appear "2nd" is supposed to be an inverse function: You're finding the angle whose sine is 11.8/13.5. That is often written as ## \sin^{-1}(11.8/13.5) ##. The "2nd" is apparently referring to a "second" (inverse) function.
 
Liam C said:
Textbooks answer: sin p = 71.468
That looks more like the angle p. Try looking for arcsin on your calculator to go from the sine value to the angle...

EDIT -- Beaten to the punch by Charles :smile:
 
Liam C said:
Textbooks answer: sin p = 71.468
BTW, I get a slightly different answer for the angle. I'll check the rest of your work (unless Charles beats me to that too!).
 
Liam C said:
Angle p is on the same line as the 90 degree angle and I found out that it must be sine.
Are you sure you have the angle p shown in the right place?
 
berkeman said:
Are you sure you have the angle p shown in the right place?
Yes.
 
berkeman said:
Are you sure you have the angle p shown in the right place?
Also I tried using the inverse sine and it didn't give me the correct answer. It gives me 60.9
 
Liam C said:
Yes.
So what do you get for arcsin(11.8/13.5 )

EDIT -- Right, that's what I got.
 
berkeman said:
So what do you get for arcsin(11.8/13.5 )

EDIT -- Right, that's what I got.
I don't know how to do that, unfortunately.
 
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Liam C said:
I don't know how to do that, unfortunately.
arcsine is the same as inverse sine.
 
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Liam C said:
hypotenuse of 13.5 and height of 11.8.
Maybe double-check those numbers -- maybe there is a typo digit in there somewhere that is giving us the wrong answer...
 
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berkeman said:
Maybe double-check those numbers -- maybe there is a typo digit in there somewhere that is giving us the wrong answer...
Unfortunately no :(
I am starting to think there might be a typo in the textbook given the fact what it's telling me to do gives me a completely wrong answer
 
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Liam C said:

The Attempt at a Solution


sin p = 11.8/13.5
sin p = .874

Textbooks answer: sin p = 71.468
arcsin(12.8/13.5) = 71.468. That looks to be the typo.:smile:
 
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berkeman said:
arcsin(12.8/13.5) = 71.468. That looks to be the typo.:smile:
Ah, thanks so much! A silly textbook typo had me so confused! :smile:
 
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Liam C said:
It says I need to use something called 2nd sine like this: 2nd sin(11.8/13.5),
Some calculators have a button labeled "2nd". When you press it, the calculator uses the function behind (or above) a given button.

On my calculator, a CASIO model, there is a button labeled SHIFT, in orange letters. Just above my button labeled "sin" is label, in orange letters, for the inverse function "sin-1". There are inverse functions for sine, cosine, and tangent, as well as log, ln (natural log) and a few others. All of the inverse functions are accessed by pressing the SHIFT button. On yours I'd be willing to bet there's a "2nd" button.
 
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Mark44 said:
Some calculators have a button labeled "2nd". When you press it, the calculator uses the function behind (or above) a given button.

On my calculator, a CASIO model, there is a button labeled SHIFT, in orange letters. Just above my button labeled "sin" is label, in orange letters, for the inverse function "sin-1". There are inverse functions for sine, cosine, and tangent, as well as log, ln (natural log) and a few others. All of the inverse functions are accessed by pressing the SHIFT button. On yours I'd be willing to bet there's a "2nd" button.
Yes, shift did it :)
 

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