What is a best physics textbook?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around recommendations for physics textbooks suitable for preparing for the USA Physics Olympiad. Participants are seeking in-depth resources that cater to advanced understanding and include practice problems, while also considering the mathematical prerequisites of the suggested texts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests recommendations for a single comprehensive physics textbook or two books for advanced learning, emphasizing the need for practice problems.
  • Another participant suggests a specific book, linking to it as a good resource.
  • Some participants argue that "Morin" may be too advanced for someone preparing for the Olympiad, recommending "Physics" by Halliday and Resnick instead, while noting it should not be confused with "Fundamentals of Physics."
  • There is mention of the Schaum's series as a potential resource for practice problems, though its difficulty level is questioned.
  • One participant expresses doubt about the adequacy of Halliday and Resnick for Olympiad-level problems, suggesting that problems from "Kleppner and Kolenkow" or "Morin" might be more appropriate.
  • Another participant highlights that extensive calculus and complex problem-solving may not be necessary for the theoretical and practical problems in the Olympiad context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best textbook or the appropriate level of difficulty for the recommended books. There are competing views on the suitability of "Morin" versus "Halliday and Resnick" for Olympiad preparation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the difficulty of problems in recommended books may vary, and there is uncertainty regarding the specific requirements of the USA Physics Olympiad compared to international standards.

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what is the best textbook to learn physics. i need to learn physics really good(i want to test out usa physics olymipad, and i really want to perform well). so really looking for a book that is indepth and teaches things to a advanced leve.. if there is no such one book, and you want to suggest 2 books, in order for more advanced understanding, please list the(but tell me that i need the 2 books)

Also, recommend one with practice problems. A textbook with practice problems or a book dedicated to practice problems. thanks

(also, don't worry about math, don't let mathematics be the reason to not recommend someting, if it requires hard math(cal 3 or under) that's fine.

also, what level would you consider these books, will any of them work for me?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0470469080/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0321696867/?tag=pfamazon01-20please list, from top priority to down.,, multiple recommendation is desired because it will allow me flexibility in terms of availability, prices, etc.

thanks for the help :)
 
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fras, Aayam wants a book to prepare him for olympiads, I think Morin is too advanced for that. The standard introduction to physics is Physics by Halliday and Resnick (which should not be confused with Fundamentals of Physics).
https://www.amazon.com/dp/047134530X/?tag=pfamazon01-20

As for books with problems, I can't help you there. I just did a search for 'physics olympiad' on amazon.com, which is a start:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/047134530X/?tag=pfamazon01-20

There's also the book in the Schaum's series, but those books tend to be not-too-difficult, so it may not help with olympiads:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0071763465/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Edit: smiley in the link removed
 
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In case you're wondering, no that smiley isn't meant to be there. Replace it with a semi-colon and a 'p'.
 
Oh, that's not a comment about the book? :D
 
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fras, Aayam wants a book to prepare him for olympiads, I think Morin is too advanced for that. The standard introduction to physics is Physics by Halliday and Resnick (which should not be confused with Fundamentals of Physics).
https://www.amazon.com/dp/047134530X/?tag=pfamazon01-20

As for books with problems, I can't help you there. I just did a search for 'physics olympiad' on amazon.com, which is a start:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/047134530X/?tag=pfamazon01-20

There's also the book in the Schaum's series, but those books tend to be not-too-difficult, so it may not help with olympiads:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0071763465/?tag=pfamazon01-20

I don't know about the US physics olympiad, but I think the problems in Halliday and Resnick are too elementary at the international level (they are fine for learning physics, but olympiads are strange things). The US usually does quite well, so I would be surprised if the standard in the US olympiad were much lower. I think one should try problems at the level of Kleppner and Kolenkow. From what I've heard, the problems in Morin are harder, so it would probably be ok.

From googling, here are some books recommended in 2011, and Morin is among them. Of course, if one is not ready for the problems in Morin, one should start with problems at the level of Halliday and Resnick. http://mpec.sc.mahidol.ac.th/ipho2011/node/158
 
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I was under the impression Aayam wanted to start learning physics. For that, Morin is inappropriate, indeed that link puts it after a general physics book like Halliday and Resnick.

"The extensive use of the calculus (differentiation and integration) and the use of complex numbers or solving differential equations should not be required to solve the theoretical and practical problems."
http://www.jyu.fi/tdk/kastdk/olympiads/
 

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