What is a suitable substitution for this integration problem?

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The discussion revolves around finding a suitable substitution for an integration problem, specifically one that does not involve trigonometric functions. Participants are exploring various substitution options to simplify the integration process.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are questioning which substitutions might be appropriate, such as u = √x or u = (1 + √x). There is also discussion about the validity of using different forms of substitutions and how they might affect the integration process.

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Some participants have suggested that certain substitutions could lead to quicker or neater results, while others emphasize the importance of ensuring that the differential dx is expressed correctly in terms of the new variable u. The conversation reflects a variety of opinions on the effectiveness of different substitution strategies.

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There is an emphasis on the requirement for a suitable substitution without the use of trigonometric functions, and participants are considering the implications of their choices on the integration process.

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for this question, the question only stated SUITABLE substituition, what substituition should i use? this substituion does not involve trigo functions , am i right? P/S : I'm just asking opinion, not the full working.

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delsoo said:

Homework Statement



for this question, the question only stated SUITABLE substituition, what substituition should i use? this substituion does not involve trigo functions , am i right? P/S : I'm just asking opinion, not the full working.

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No, you don't need trig functions. Use a substitution that will get rid of the square root.
 
what should i sub? how to determine the substitution for this type of question? can i sub u= surd x ? or u=( 1+ surd x ) ? or u=(( 1+ surd x ) sqrt)
 
delsoo said:
what should i sub? how to determine the substitution for this type of question? can i sub u= surd x ? or u=( 1+ surd x ) ? or u=(( 1+ surd x ) sqrt)

Why don't you try it and see? Both ##u = \sqrt{x}## and ##u = 1 + \sqrt{x}## work but one gives a quicker and neater answer.
 
for this type of question, can i use any substituition i like such as u=(1+ surd x )^2 ?
 
delsoo said:
for this type of question, can i use any substituition i like such as u=(1+ surd x )^2 ?

You can TRY any substitution you like, they won't all help you to integrate. Don't forget when you substitute u=f(x) you also have to find du so you can figure out how to express the dx part in terms of u.
 

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