What is a wave constant and how do you find the phase of a wave?

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The discussion revolves around understanding wave constants and the phase of a wave, specifically in the context of a sinusoidal wave described by the equation y = (0.10 m)sin(0.77x − 37t). Participants are exploring the definitions and calculations related to the phase constant and the phase at specific points in time and space.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to differentiate between the phase constant and the phase of the wave, with some confusion regarding their definitions. Questions are raised about how to calculate the phase at given values of x and t, and whether the phase can be considered constant.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the relationship between amplitude and phase, while others are still seeking guidance on the calculations involved. There is recognition of the confusion between terms, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the correct approach to the problem.

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Participants note that the original poster's textbook does not provide sufficient information on the phase constant, contributing to the confusion. There are also indications of potential misunderstandings regarding the use of units in calculations.

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y = (0.10 m)sin(0.77x − 37t),
where x and y are in meters and t is in seconds. If the linear mass density of the string is 11 g/m, determine the following.

the phase constant is 0 rad, but I'm not sure why and what phase constant exactly is couldn't' find it in the book. can anybody explain it to me?


the phase of the wave at x = 4 cm and t = 0.1 s

so i just plugged it into the equation but that does not seem to be the case..

i'm lost.. and the book doesn't have anything about these

help and thank you
 
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So it looks like your wave is of the form:

y = A \sin (kx-\omega t)

thus it seems to me that y is the amplitude of the wave at a given time and distance along the string. It looks like you've confused amplitude (height) with phase! Just plugging in values for x and t into that equation will give you the amplitude.

In the case of plane waves such as yours, the phase is an arbitrary constant related to where you choose to put the zero of your axes. So really it doesn't make sense to ask what is the phase at a particular point or time because it is a constant. But you are right, for the wave given the phase has been set to zero. If it wasn't set to zero your wave may look like this:

y = A \sin (kx-\omega t + C)

where C is the arbitrary phase constant.
 
JesseC said:
So it looks like your wave is of the form:

y = A \sin (kx-\omega t)



In the case of plane waves such as yours, the phase is an arbitrary constant related to where you choose to put the zero of your axes. So really it doesn't make sense to ask what is the phase at a particular point or time because it is a constant. But you are right, for the wave given the phase has been set to zero. If it wasn't set to zero your wave may look like this:

y = A \sin (kx-\omega t + C)




where C is the arbitrary phase constant.

this is an example

A sinusoidal wave on a string is described by the equation y = (0.10 m)sin(0.73x − 42t),
where x and y are in meters and t is in seconds. If the linear mass density of the string is 11 g/m, determine the following.


the phase of the wave at x = 1 cm and t = 0.1 s

answer = -4.19 rad

this one has an answer but I'm not sure how to solve it
 
You've calculated 0.73x − 42t at x = 1 cm and t = 0.1 s to be equal to -4.19 right? That is not the same thing as the phase... that's just the argument of the sine function at a particular point in time and space. The phase of a wave remains constant relative to some arbitrary reference point.

Perhaps you should post the entire question you have a problem with and we could see what is actually going on here...
 
JesseC said:
You've calculated 0.73x − 42t at x = 1 cm and t = 0.1 s to be equal to -4.19 right? That is not the same thing as the phase... that's just the argument of the sine function at a particular point in time and space. The phase of a wave remains constant relative to some arbitrary reference point.

Perhaps you should post the entire question you have a problem with and we could see what is actually going on here...

A sinusoidal wave on a string is described by the equation
y = (0.10 m)sin(0.73x − 42t),
where x and y are in meters and t is in seconds. If the linear mass density of the string is 11 g/m, determine the following.
(a) the phase constant
A: 0 rad

(b) the phase of the wave at x = 1 cm and t = 0.1 s
A: -4.19 rad
these the questions and answers

thank you
 
So its clear now I was using phase constant and phase interchangeably whereas the question doesn't in which case it seems like your answers are correct.
 
-4.19 rad
how do get to this answer is my question you find 2 equations with unkwon amplitude
and divide them but i got 30 degree as my angle but is this right?
 
Check your units.
 

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