What Is g'(2) for the Function G = (1/f^-1)?

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative \( g'(2) \) for the function \( G = (1/f^{-1}) \), given that \( f \) has an inverse and specific values for \( f \) and its derivative at a certain point. Participants are exploring the application of the chain rule in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants express uncertainty about how to start the problem and the application of the chain rule. There are attempts to clarify the definition of \( G \) and its derivative, with some participants questioning how to correctly apply the chain rule to the function.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the derivative of \( G \) and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the structure of the derivative, but there is no consensus on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of the inverse function and the specific values provided, which may influence their calculations. There is also a mention of confusion regarding the notation and the roles of the negative exponent and inverse function in the context of derivatives.

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Homework Statement


  1. Suppose that f has an inverse and f(-4)=2, f '(-4)=2/5. If G= (1/f-1) what is g '(2) ?
If it helps the answer is (-5/32)

Homework Equations


[/B]
f-1'(b)=1/(f')(a)

The Attempt at a Solution



Im not really sure how to start this problem. I am familiar with how to use the equation above to plug solve for "c" and then plug c into the derivative, so I assume it has something to do with that but I can't find any helpful resources on the web showing me how to do this specific type of problem.[/B]
 
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Geologist180 said:

Homework Statement


  1. Suppose that f has an inverse and f(-4)=2, f '(-4)=2/5. If G= (1/f-1) what is g '(2) ?
I suppose you mean G'(2)

If it helps the answer is (-5/32)

Homework Equations


[/B]
f-1'(b)=1/(f')(a)

The Attempt at a Solution



Im not really sure how to start this problem. I am familiar with how to use the equation above to plug solve for "c" and then plug c into the derivative, so I assume it has something to do with that but I can't find any helpful resources on the web showing me how to do this specific type of problem.[/B]

Start by showing us the calculation for G' using the chain rule.
 
LCKurtz said:
I suppose you mean G'(2)
Start by showing us the calculation for G' using the chain rule.

I believe the derivative of G would be -1/(f-1) 2
Is this correct?
 
No. You haven't used the chain rule on the definition of G.
 

Im confused how I am supposed to use the chain rule in the context of this question.
When I think about the chain rule, I think about more complicated functions and taking the derivative of the functions with respect to the outside of the brackets multiplied by the derivative of the inside of the brackets. I am having trouble seeing how to apply that here.
 
Geologist180 said:
Im confused how I am supposed to use the chain rule in the context of this question.
When I think about the chain rule, I think about more complicated functions and taking the derivative of the functions with respect to the outside of the brackets multiplied by the derivative of the inside of the brackets. I am having trouble seeing how to apply that here.
Isn't that exactly what you have:
$$
G(\cdot)=(f^{-1}(\cdot))^{-1}$$where you can replace the dot with whatever variable you want to call it, maybe ##y## if you call the original equation ##y=f(x)##. What is the derivative of the "inside"?

I know it is a bit confusing with one of the ##-1##'s being a negative exponent and the other an inverse function.
 
LCKurtz said:
Isn't that exactly what you have:
$$
G(\cdot)=(f^{-1}(\cdot))^{-1}$$where you can replace the dot with whatever variable you want to call it, maybe ##y## if you call the original equation ##y=f(x)##. What is the derivative of the "inside"?

I know it is a bit confusing with one of the ##-1##'s being a negative exponent and the other an inverse function.

I believe it would be: (substituted a star for the dot)

( - (f-1(*))-2) (d/dx (f-1(*)))

Am I following you correctly in this?
Thank you for your hep by the way
 
Geologist180 said:
I believe it would be: (substituted a star for the dot)

( - (f-1(*))-2) (d/dx (f-1(*)))

Am I following you correctly in this?
Thank you for your hep by the way
With the * that would be written ( - (f-1(*))-2) (d/d* (f-1(*))). Let's use ##y## and write it$$
G'(y)=-(f^{-1}(y))^{-2}\frac d {dy} f^{-1}(y)$$Now, remember your question is asking for ##G'(2)##. If you put that in you have$$
G'(2) =-(f^{-1}(2))^{-2}\frac d {dy} f^{-1}(2)$$So now you have to ask yourself: do I know ##f^{-1}(2)##? Do I know the derivative of the inverse function at ##2##? What do I know about derivatives of inverses versus derivatives of the original function?
 

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