FUNKER Messages 120 Reaction score 0 Thread starter Apr 9, 2004 #1 what is the result or simplification of ( ln(i^2) )^2 sweet bro
Janitor Science Advisor Messages 1,108 Reaction score 1 Apr 9, 2004 #2 Easy as pi First, i^2=-1. Then note that exp(i pi) = -1. So ln(-1) = ln[exp(i pi)] = i pi. Square it: (i pi)^2 = - pi^2. EDIT: I should caution that this is a solution. I make no claim that it is the only solution. Last edited: Apr 9, 2004
Easy as pi First, i^2=-1. Then note that exp(i pi) = -1. So ln(-1) = ln[exp(i pi)] = i pi. Square it: (i pi)^2 = - pi^2. EDIT: I should caution that this is a solution. I make no claim that it is the only solution.
chroot Staff Emeritus Science Advisor Gold Member Messages 10,270 Reaction score 45 Apr 9, 2004 #3 [itex]-\pi^2[/itex] is definitely a solution. I'm not sure how there could be more solutions...? - Warren
[itex]-\pi^2[/itex] is definitely a solution. I'm not sure how there could be more solutions...? - Warren
cookiemonster Messages 977 Reaction score 0 Apr 9, 2004 #4 He wasn't even referring to solutions, was he? He just wanted a simplification of an expression, no? cookiemonster
He wasn't even referring to solutions, was he? He just wanted a simplification of an expression, no? cookiemonster
chroot Staff Emeritus Science Advisor Gold Member Messages 10,270 Reaction score 45 Apr 9, 2004 #5 Well, heh, right, not solutions... I meant that [itex]-\pi^2[/itex] is the simplest possible form for it. I see what Janitor was saying now -- that there may be better simplifications. If so, I don't see any. - Warren
Well, heh, right, not solutions... I meant that [itex]-\pi^2[/itex] is the simplest possible form for it. I see what Janitor was saying now -- that there may be better simplifications. If so, I don't see any. - Warren
Janitor Science Advisor Messages 1,108 Reaction score 1 Apr 9, 2004 #6 Cookiemonster: he did ask, "What is the result..." I'm not sure how there could be more solutions...? Chroot, here's the sort of thing I am worried about: Note that exp(3 i pi) = -1. So ln(-1) = ln[exp(3 i pi)] = 3 i pi. Square it: (3 i pi)^2 = - 9 pi^2.
Cookiemonster: he did ask, "What is the result..." I'm not sure how there could be more solutions...? Chroot, here's the sort of thing I am worried about: Note that exp(3 i pi) = -1. So ln(-1) = ln[exp(3 i pi)] = 3 i pi. Square it: (3 i pi)^2 = - 9 pi^2.
matt grime Science Advisor Homework Helper Messages 9,361 Reaction score 6 Apr 9, 2004 #7 the principal branch is usually what we mean when we ask for log of a complex number, which is the same as the principal value of arg, ie Arg
the principal branch is usually what we mean when we ask for log of a complex number, which is the same as the principal value of arg, ie Arg
FUNKER Messages 120 Reaction score 0 Apr 10, 2004 #8 thanks for all ur help dudes, and yea I believe this is a solution as well as a simplification.
Hurkyl Staff Emeritus Science Advisor Gold Member Messages 14,922 Reaction score 28 Apr 10, 2004 #9 When I took complex analysis, we used ln for the multivalued version and Ln for the principal branch.
When I took complex analysis, we used ln for the multivalued version and Ln for the principal branch.