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We have discussed about many things in this forum without mentioning about the definition of "love". So, what do you think love is all about?
A true idealist, and a definition that might be expected from a true idealist.dekoi said:Love is agape (according to Lewis).
Love is never putting the other at risk.
Love is unconditional.
Love is always putting the other ahead of yourself.
Love is not what you see in romantic hollywood films.
Love is not violin music and candle-lit dinners in the monlight.
Agape is not the only type of love. Eros is too. So is philos.dekoi said:You are talking strictly about eros and storge.
I am not sure if you are trying to claim that you are one of these and not the other. I never said, and I do not consider, that idealists are impractical or that beling one is a bad thing. It is one type of person that has opinions that are different from other types.dekoi said:Prometheus:
Perhaps you should consider the difference between someone who recognizes the truth, and someone who is impractical (idealist).
I am sorry, but your word "ultimate" has absolutely no meaning for me. Should it?Agape is ultimate love.
I am not familir with storge. I am also not familiar with degrees of love, such that they are hierarchically organized in an objectively agreed upon order. Please cite a reference that supports your objective contention that there is a hierarchical order for degrees of love, such that one is more important than another.Eros, philos, and storge are at a much lower degree.
XMLT said:We have discussed about many things in this forum without mentioning about the definition of "love". So, what do you think love is all about?
Philocrat said:ANY THING OR ACTION THAT ALLOWS HUMAN BEINGS TO CO-EXIST, PROGRESS AND SUBSEQUENTLY SURVIVE IS LOVE!
hypnagogue said:So the construction of the highway system in the United States was an act of love? Odd way to use the word.
At bottom, love is a kind of subjectively experienced emotion. Certain kinds of behavior may ensue from this kind of emotion, but these acts are not what defines love. It is the qualitative character of the emotion itself that defines love.
dekoi said:You are not clear on the root of love? Are you stating that it is strictly emotion?
I disagree with all of these. I think that these are not love, but attributes of love, and that furthermore they are the attributes defined by a person who is extremely different from me.dekoi said:I am wondering whether you believe it is false and you are in disagreement with it, or you have not read it.
"Love is never putting the other at risk.
Love is unconditional.
Love is always putting the other ahead of yourself."
If this is true, I never loved someone, and think I'll never be able to love anyone in the future neither.dekoi said:1) Love is never putting the other at risk.
2) Love is unconditional.
3) Love is always putting the other ahead of yourself.
I think terms as 'understanding', 'trust' and 'respect' are indeed linked with what I regard as love. But, I don't think I would reject what others- teenagers e.g. - feel as not being true. That words as 'understanding' and so on, can not merely replace the word 'love' says enough IMHO. Love has certainly to do with (our 'bestial') feelings too. Nothing wrong with temporary love, as long as nobody is hurt, deceived or something like that. And the opportunities to do that are certainly manifold until you get to know somebody better.XMLT said:[about television love]In the end, you don't have true happiness. True love brings you true happiness. And yes I agree with dekoi. Love is understanding, trusting and respecting each other.
dekoi said:So Preator, as well as other members who have replied: you would not agree with my statement regarding love? I am wondering whether you believe it is false and you are in disagreement with it, or you have not read it.
"Love is never putting the other at risk.
Love is unconditional.
Love is always putting the other ahead of yourself."
hypnagogue said:So the construction of the highway system in the United States was an act of love? Odd way to use the word.
At bottom, love is a kind of subjectively experienced emotion. Certain kinds of behavior may ensue from this kind of emotion, but these acts are not what defines love. It is the qualitative character of the emotion itself that defines love.
Mazuz said:Love is seeing yourself in another.
pace said:Love don't cost a thing.