What is the approach for integrating 2θsin2θ in a polar equation problem?

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The problem involves a polar equation defined by r = θ + sin(2θ) for the interval 0 ≤ θ ≤ π. Participants are tasked with finding the area bounded by the curve and the x-axis, determining specific angles related to points on the curve, and analyzing the behavior of the curve based on the derivative of r.

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  • Participants discuss the integration of the expression (θ + sin(2θ))² to find the area, with some expressing uncertainty about the integration by parts method for the term 2θsin(2θ). Others suggest using specific substitutions for u and dv in the integration process.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts at integration and questioning each other's approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integration by parts technique, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method or outcome.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of integration within the constraints of the problem, including specific limits and the behavior of the curve as defined by the polar equation.

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Homework Statement




[tex]r = \theta + sin(2\theta)[/tex] for [tex]0 \le \theta \le \pi[/tex]

a. Find the area bounded by the curve and the x-axis

b. Find the angle [tex]\theta[/tex] that corresponds to the point on the curve with x-coordinate -2

c. For [tex]\frac{\pi}{3} < \theta <\frac{2\pi}{3} , \frac{dr}{d\theta}[/tex] is negative. What does this fact say about r? What does this fact say about the curve?

d. Find the value of [tex]\theta[/tex] in the interval [tex]0 \le \theta \le \frac{\pi}{2}[/tex] that corresponds to the point on the curve in the first quadrant with the greatest distance from the origin.


The Attempt at a Solution




a. [tex]1/2\int_{0}^{\pi }(\theta + sin2\theta)^2 d\theta}[/tex]


When I foil I end up with [tex]\theta^2 + 2\theta\sin2\theta + sin^2(2\theta)[/tex]

this is the part where I believe I made the mistake. I know the area is 4.9348 by the use of my calculator...if it is indeed correct...I can easily integrate the 1st and 3rd term...but i think the second term needs to be done by parts if I am not mistaken.
 
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Parts should be ok to solve that. It's pretty straight forward. If you're familiar with the "ultra-violet voodoo" pneumonic, then let the [tex]\theta[/tex] term be the "doo" (du) part.
 
i seem to be having trouble doing the integration by parts

[tex]2\theta\sin2\theta[/tex]

using uv - [tex]\int[/tex] vdu

u = 2[tex]\theta[/tex] dv = [tex]sin2\theta[/tex]
du = 2[tex]d\theta[/tex] v = [tex]\frac{-1}{2}cos2\theta[/tex]

[tex]-\theta\cos2\theta + 1/2sin2\theta[/tex]



the final integral from [tex]\theta^2 + 2\theta\sin2\theta + sin^2(2\theta)[/tex] becomes:


[tex]\frac{1}{3}\theta^3-\theta\cos2\theta+ 1/2sin2\theta + \frac{1 - cos4\theta}{2}[/tex]

from 0 to [tex]\pi[/tex]
 
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Try

[tex]u=2\theta[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow du=2d\theta[/tex]
[tex]v=\sin 2\theta[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow dv=-2\cos 2\theta[/tex]

Then plug into your expression of

[tex]uv-\int v du[/tex]

Don't forget to evaluate that first part with limits.
 
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blather said:
Try

[tex]u=2\theta[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow du=2d\theta[/tex]
[tex]v=\sin 2\theta[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow dv=-2\cos 2\theta[/tex]

Then plug into your expression of

[tex]uv-\int v du[/tex]

Don't forget to evaluate that first part with limits.

i'm pretty sure dv = sin2[tex]\theta[/tex]

and its integral v = -1/2cos2[tex]\theta[/tex]
 
Yes, you're correct. But it is of no consequence because we don't need the differential of v.
 
Wait. Hang on. No.

[tex]dv=-(1/2)\cos 2\theta d\theta[/tex]
 
blather said:
Wait. Hang on. No.

[tex]dv=-(1/2)\cos 2\theta d\theta[/tex]

you set u to one part, and dv to another

du is the differential of u,

v is the integral of dv.

I'll work on this tomorrow...ahhhh so frustrating.
 
any help at integrating this?


[tex]2\theta\sin2\theta[/tex]
 

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