What is the area of a region in the positive quadrant bounded by three curves?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the area of a region in the positive quadrant of the xy-plane, bounded by the curves y=1, y=1-x, and y=(1-x)^3. The original poster, Lucy, is attempting to solve this problem using a double integral.

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  • Lucy describes her approach using a double integral and expresses confusion about her calculations. Other participants question the setup of the problem, particularly the positioning of the curves and whether the original question was stated correctly.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the problem's boundaries and Lucy's calculations. Some guidance has been provided regarding potential errors in her work, and there is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of the curves involved.

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There is mention of a possible misstatement in the problem regarding the positioning of the curves, which may affect the interpretation of the area to be calculated. Lucy acknowledges a typographical error in her calculations, which may have contributed to her confusion.

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Hello everyone am new to this forum my name is lucy and i hope i can help and get help from other i got this tutorial question that i seem to keep getting wrong :s i hope someone can help me :) the question is

Use a double integral to calculate the area of the region in the positive quadrant of the xy-plane bounded above by y=1, to the left by y= 1 -x and to the right by y=(1-x)^3

first i reaggare y=1-x and y=(1-x)^3 to get

x=1-y and x=y1/3 + 1

to get the double integal that looks like this

\oint^{1}_{0} \oint^{y^1/3 + 1}_{1-y} 1 dx dy

= \oint^{1}_{0} y^1/3 + 1 - 1 + y
= [3/4 y^4/3 + 1/2 y^2] between 1 and 0
= 4/9 + 1/2 - 0
= 17/18

Sorry for the mess am still trying to get a hang of this, am been at this question for ages am pretty bad at those but if anyone could give a little bit of help it will be of a lot of help to me thanks a lot :)
 
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oceansoft said:
Hello everyone am new to this forum my name is lucy and i hope i can help and get help from other i got this tutorial question that i seem to keep getting wrong :s i hope someone can help me

... bounded above by y=1, to the left by y= 1 -x and to the right by y=(1-x)^3 ...

Hi Lucy,

It seems to me that there is a mistake in the wording of this question. If you draw a plot of your boundaries the y=1-x line is to the right of the y=(1-x)^3 curve, not to the left as written. As written, the area is zero, but I doubt this is the correct question. The question would make more sense if the curve were y=(x-1)^3.
 
stevenb said:
Hi Lucy,

It seems to me that there is a mistake in the wording of this question. If you draw a plot of your boundaries the y=1-x line is to the right of the y=(1-x)^3 curve, not to the left as written. As written, the area is zero, but I doubt this is the correct question. The question would make more sense if the curve were y=(x-1)^3.

Hey thanks for the help but i just miss type that when I was working it out on paper i did use y=(x-1)^3 and that what it is in the question but sill got the wrong answer. do u know what else i might of done wrong?
 
oceansoft said:
Hey thanks for the help but i just miss type that when I was working it out on paper i did use y=(x-1)^3 and that what it is in the question but sill got the wrong answer. do u know what else i might of done wrong?

Oh, OK. For that problem, you did it correctly, but just made a slight error at the end.

I get the following copying from your work.

= [3/4 y^4/3 + 1/2 y^2] between 1 and 0
= 3/4 + 1/2 - 0
= 5/4
 
stevenb said:
Oh, OK. For that problem, you did it correctly, but just made a slight error at the end.

I get the following copying from your work.

= [3/4 y^4/3 + 1/2 y^2] between 1 and 0
= 3/4 + 1/2 - 0
= 5/4

Yeh thanks i know where i went wrong when i type 1^4/3 in i didn't put the bracket around 4/3. btw are u such i havn't gone wrong anywhere else if not thanks for the help
 
oceansoft said:
Yeh thanks i know where i went wrong when i type 1^4/3 in i didn't put the bracket around 4/3. btw are u such i havn't gone wrong anywhere else if not thanks for the help

As far as i can tell you did it correctly. The final number also makes physical sense. Just looking at the plot, it's clear that the area should be just a little greater than one.
 

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