What is the best pump for high temperature liquid transfer in home beer brewing?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around selecting an appropriate pump for transferring high-temperature liquids, specifically for home beer brewing. Participants explore various options for cooling wort using a pump to enhance efficiency in the brewing process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the need for a pump that can handle temperatures around 100°C and provide sufficient pressure for a 20-40 foot copper coil.
  • Another suggests using a stainless steel diaphragm pump with an air compressor or a centrifugal pump, noting the need to flush the mechanical seal at high temperatures.
  • A different viewpoint proposes using gravity by positioning the hot tank above the cold tank to eliminate the need for a pump.
  • One participant shares a link to a specific pump from a local supplier, mentioning alternatives like gravity feed and direct immersion of copper tubing in the wort for cooling.
  • Another participant expresses interest in a March pump but is hesitant about the cost.
  • A suggestion is made to consider a Stainless Steel Taco 007 circulator, which is used in hydronic heating and can withstand the required temperatures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on the best approach to cooling wort, with no consensus on a single solution. Various pump options and alternative methods are discussed, reflecting differing preferences and considerations regarding cost and efficiency.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific temperature requirements and pressure needs, but there are no detailed discussions on the limitations or assumptions regarding the effectiveness of the proposed solutions.

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I have recently gotten heavily into home beer brewing with some people. To improve on the cooling of the wort (boiled beer before fermentation), I want to pump the boiling liquid through a long copper coil. This coil will be inside a cooler filled with ice and the cooled wort will come out on the other side.

In order to do this I will need a pump that accepts high temperatures ~100 degc and have enough pressure to push through the copper coil of somewhere around 20-40 feet. The flow rate doesn't need to be that high considering that the wort needs to be fully cooled when it exits the system. Does anyone have any suggestions or input as to a good pump that will do this.

I'm not looking to spend a ridiculous amount of money either. Just something to get the job done. Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
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If you have an air compressor, a simple stainless steel diaphragm pump will work. If you use a centrifugal pump, you may need to flush the mechanical seal at this temperature.
 
Why not have your hot tank higher then your cold tank and get gravity to do the job for free?
 
Here's a pump from a local homebrewing supplier. There are numerous online suppliers where you might be able to find it cheaper, but I use them because they're local to me. The searching is up to you though.

http://www.defalcos.com/virtuemart.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=1403&category_id=58


Other than that, you can use gravity feed and a cooler, or instead of running the wort through the copper tubing, immerse the copper tubing directly into the wort towards the end of the boil. When you're ready to cool you can run tap water through the copper tubing. Using 40-50' you should be able to cool a 5 gallon batch quite quickly (10 minutes or so even with warmer tap water). Personally I'd rather not run the wort on the inside of the copper tubing either, as it could be difficult to clean and much more prone to fouling/buildup that way. With the pump it may not be much of a problem, but still.

This thread also has some advice in it, or you can post your own questions and I'm sure somebody will answer.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=468902
 
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Thanks for the replies! Our original way of cooling is by immersion of a copper coil with a hose connector. It works no problem, but were hoping to improve cooling and speed up the process by cooling and transporting the wort at the same time. It would save a lot of time, energy, and potential infection of the beer due to oxidation.

As for that march pump, I have been looking into it already. I'm just not sure if I want to put the money in... :redface:
 
If you have a hydronic heating supplier in your area, a Stainless Steel Taco 007 circulator will do what you wish for around $100. In the plumbing and heating world, we use these circulators to move hot potable water from tank to tank or recirculate through a system. They can withstand the temperatures that you wish and can be easily controlled. They operate on 120VAC and use about the electricity of a 75 watt lightbulb.
 

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