What is the coefficient of kinetic friction for the incline?

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The problem involves a block sliding down an inclined plane at an angle of 23 degrees, with a focus on determining the coefficient of kinetic friction. The block's mass is given as 7 kg, and it travels 2.8 m in 4.7 s. The acceleration due to gravity is specified as 9.8 m/s². Participants are working through the calculations related to the block's acceleration and the frictional forces at play.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the block's acceleration and the forces acting on it, including gravitational and frictional forces. There are questions about the correct application of force equations and the signs associated with the forces based on the chosen coordinate system.

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There is ongoing dialogue about the correct formulation of the equations and the implications of sign conventions. Some participants have offered guidance on ensuring consistency in the direction of forces and accelerations, while others are seeking clarification on their calculations and assumptions.

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Participants note potential missing information in the problem statement and discuss the implications of the mass of the block on the calculations. There is also a focus on the importance of correctly identifying the positive direction in the context of the inclined plane.

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Homework Statement


A block(7 kg) is released from rest on an inclined plane of 23 degrees and moves 2.8 m during the next 4.7 s. The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s^2. What is the magnitude of the acceleration of the block? What is the coefficient of kinetic friction for the incline?

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I already calculated the acceleration of the block which is 0.2535 m/s^2.

Fn=mgcos23=63.14663295

Fx=ma=Ff-mgsin 23
7(0.2535) = 63.14663295 * (coefficient) - 26.80415541
coefficient = 0.452576077

Can you check my calculation please?
 
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DrunkApple said:

Homework Statement


A block is released from rest on an inclined plane of 23 degrees and moves 2.8 m during the next 4.7 s. The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s^2. What is the magnitude of the acceleration of the block? What is the coefficient of kinetic friction for the incline?I already calculated the acceleration of the block which is 0.2535 m/s^2.

Fn=mgcos23=63.14663295

I'm assuming that somewhere you were given a mass for the block of 7 kg., which is not mentioned in the problem statement above. However, you could ignore it entirely, since you only want to work with the acceleration along the incline, so you can divide out m early on. Anyway...

Fx=ma=Ff-mgsin 23
7(0.2535) = 63.14663295 - 26.80415541(coefficient)
coefficient = 0.452576077

Can you check my calculation please?

You've attached the coefficient of kinetic friction to the wrong term in the second line: Ff should be \mu \cdot mg \cos 23º.

One other thing: as you've written the equation for the net force along the incline, the left-hand side is "positive downhill", but the right-hand side is "positive uphill", since you've made the friction force positive and the "downhill" component of the weight force negative.
 
ok i fixed everything. Could you check it please? My online homework keeps say it is wrong
 
DrunkApple said:
ok i fixed everything. Could you check it please? My online homework keeps say it is wrong

Not quite: are you calling "uphill" or "downhill" the positive direction? The signs on the two sides of your force equation still aren't following the same choice. (With the block sliding downhill, which way does the friction force act?)
 
uphill is the positive direction
 
Then, since the block is sliding downhill, its net acceleration is negative. You need to change the sign of the left-hand side of your equation now.
 
hmmm... negative... then acceleration is for x-component no?
 
What you have written,

F_{x} = ma = F_{f} - mg \sin (23º) ,

indicates that you are placing the x-axis parallel to the slope of the inclined plane already. That puts the "normal direction", which is perpendicular to the inclined plane, parallel to the y-axis, which is why you can write

F_{n} = mg \cos (23º) .

So the friction force is F_{f} = \mu \cdot F_{n} = \mu \cdot mg \cos (23º) . The order in which you wrote the forces for Fx indicates that you have already chosen "uphill" along the incline to be positive. But the block is going to slide "downhill", so ax will be negative. (ay is zero, since the block will not accelerate perpendicularly to the inclined plane; in fact, this was used to come up with Fn - mg cos (23º) = 0 , the second term being the component of the block's weight in the normal direction.

So, yes, your equation should read

ma_{x} = F_{f} - mg \sin (23º) ,

with ax < 0 .

You have to be careful, once you have chosen the directions for the coordinate axes, to be consistent with them in giving the signs to forces, accelerations, velocities, etc. Placing the wrong sign on a term will change the meaning of the force equation and lead to an incorrect solution. (The exception is if all the signs in the entire equation are reversed: this corresponds to pointing that coordinate axis in the opposite direction and will change the sign of the solution, but not the meaning. That is, if positive-x points "downhill" and the acceleration ax is positive, then the object is accelerating downhill; if positive-x points "uphill", then ax will come out negative, but that still representing downhill acceleration.)
 
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